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458 2012 458 crazy jerks/tugging during Upshifts and Downshifts

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by simmadwn, Jul 4, 2020.

  1. AlfistaPortoghese

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    Sorry to hear your troubles, James. Hope everything gets sorted out soon and for good. While it’s always a nuisance to spend that kind of money on a car, at least take comfort in knowing that it’s best to spend that money on your esteemed exotic, than on a hospital bill. That’s how I deal with it.

    Kind regards,

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  3. simmadwn

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    Nuno - you the best brother!! Thanks for the comforting and kind words. You are so right, I literally thinking on the same lines yesterday ...thanks again brother...it’s people like you who keep this forum humble and real..much appreciated!!

    Stay safe my friend!

    James
     
  4. DefunctNeurons

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    Can you provide any info on the reinforced part? I haven’t heard about that option before - and I just renewed my warranty out of fear of this very issue


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  5. buddyg

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    Sorry to hear this, when this happens it makes me happy I buy the power warranty every year.
     
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  6. simmadwn

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    Hello Friends,

    Wanted to give an update on the car - its finally fixed!! ...San Francisco Motorsport in San Rafael, CA did a great job with turnaround and quality work.

    Issue is not related to SAP as originally diagnosed based on error codes. Once the tranny was taken apart, the fork shift for 1&3 gear cluster was broken. This is the second time the shop is witnessing this broken piece. As per the shop, reason could be a design issue since driving style or age dont cause this failure.

    This part is not sold separately and doesn’t have a prt number associated to it. SFM was able to source a Cali tranny and use the part for my car. While the tranny was out, speed sensors were bench tested and no errors, they organized the cabling inside to prevent any chaffing. Had a 40bar EDiff, changed it to 60bar as preventative maintenance. Car was wrapped up in less than 3weeks. They warranty their work for 1year.

    Total cost came to $20k

    Gearbox removal, reassembly - 12k
    Cali tranny - 4.3k
    EDiff - 2k
    Gearbox fluids, seals, parts etc - ~1k
    Battery, engine bonnet struts, tax and other miscellaneous- 1k
    Check discount brought the total to 20k

    Car shifts smooth and feels new...haven’t driven it hard yet..to be honest, kinda scared if anything might happen...definitely left a bad taste.

    Hopefully wont have to shell out anymore ...

    Strongly recommend powertrain yearly warranty...could have saved me a lot of ...lesson learned!

    Stay safe and healthy my friends!

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  8. simmadwn

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  9. AlfistaPortoghese

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    Thank you very much for the update, James. Despite the expensive invoice, seems like your 458 was subjected to some quality treatment and the problem was properly addressed and taken care of for good.

    It’s now time to rack up some serious and carefree miles!

    Kindest regards and keep enjoying in good health.

    Nuno.
     
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  10. simmadwn

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    Thanks brother...plan is to drive it like I stole it
     
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  11. Need4Spd

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    Sorry to hear this and glad it worked out. Not sure if you would have saved money with a power train warranty. The 7 year “warranty” is actually just a maintenance contract. The actual coverage to fix things that break is only either 2 years or 3. After that, power train coverage is around $5-6k per year. So 5 years x $5k is $25k since your car is a 2012. If nothing else breaks this year, you would be behind by $5k since your repair bill was $20k.


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  13. simmadwn

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    This is the reason I love this forum...always providing a positive perspective ...thanks brother
     
  14. action-ant

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    James, congrats on getting the car fixed--those pictures look pretty gnarly. Hope it's trouble free from here on out!
     
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  15. Tarek307

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    Sucks you went through this, i also just went through a Trans headache (mine was the sensors, had to split it open and change all sensors $8K) your issue isn't very common though, first time i'm hearing of this happening, the good news is your car is on the road & you're enjoying it now! or so we assume, update us, how has it been?
     
  16. vracer

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    I'm in the market for a 458, and wondering if the "Improved Model" is the '12 or '13.
     
  17. cole328

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    damn a $30K bill you have a great (and admirable) attitude on this issue...bravo! enjoy the car
     
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  18. simmadwn

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    Was 20k but still...YOLO! Could be worse my friend...still ticking through COVID


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  19. Tarek307

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    no such thing as improved model, its all BS, 2010-2015 all faced the same problems..and they aren't many problems, the 458 is a solid car
     
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