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Taken Off Market 2012 FF - high spec, full Kline exhaust, Novitec springs, 1 of a kind color

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  1. dgoldenz94

    dgoldenz94 Formula Junior

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    Up for sale is a one-of-a-kind 2012 FF with just over 39,000 miles (will go up slightly as I still drive the car 1-2x a week). I bought this car from an Fchat member about 7 months ago and have the itch for a 458 or 430 Scud. Don’t need to sell it and love the car, but the want level for a mid-engine is strong. A fully documented service history binder dating back to 2013 is included.

    From what I have found this is the ONLY FF ever made in this color, Grigio Freddo over Nero interior with white contrast stitching in all areas including diamond pattern (very hard to find this!). I tried googling and couldn’t even find any other Ferrari ever made in this color either. It is not white, it’s sort of like a pearl grayish-white that looks more metallic than Bianco Italia. Very highly optioned car with all of the right mods and original MSRP of either $383k or $392k (not 100% sure which is correct). That does not include the carbon fiber LED steering wheel that was added afterwards (original steering wheel included in sale).

    Here is a link to an old listing of this car from Naples Motorsports with a lot of pictures and info, just keep in mind the wheels and calipers look different now, see current attached pics below - https://www.naplesmotorsports.com/vehicle-details/2012-ferrari-ff-coupe-eedcc5e1de070347be81a82289fc9d72

    The car is in amazing shape and has had $8k in recent service and maintenance to keep it in top running condition. Car needs nothing, I've taken care of all needed service work.

    Options include:

    Carbon LED wheel (not part of original build)
    AFS System
    Black Brake Calipers (re-painted to yellow)
    Standard Chromed Front Grill
    Cruise Control
    Body Color Painted Dash Inserts
    Suspension Lifter
    Sport Exhaust System
    Scuderia Ferrari Shields
    Diamond Stitching Seats
    Diamond Pattern Headliner
    All Stitching in Contrast Color
    Electrochromatic mirrors
    Home Link System
    Boot Nets Kit
    Parking Camera
    Front And Rear Parking Sensors
    Passenger Display
    Dark Tinted Privacy Rear Windows (only FF I’ve ever seen with this $4,328 option)
    20" Forged Dark Painted Wheels
    White Rev Counter
    Full Recaro Heated Seats
    High Power Hi-Fi System
    Tire Pressure Monitoring System


    Recent work includes the following:
    -Valve cover gaskets replaced
    -Blow-by valve replaced
    -Both axles rebuilt. CV boots were torn so they rebuild the full thing instead of replace just the boot.
    -Brand new Antigravity battery (best $1k you can spend for a Ferrari!)
    -Brand new Michelin PS4S tires about 200 miles ago
    -Annual service including oil change, serpentine belt replacement, brake fluid flush
    -Air conditioning system service


    Mods/upgrades include:


    -Full Kline exhaust with 200 cel cats, x-pipe is Capristo. The best mod you can do for an FF, makes a MASSIVE sound difference. Still have original exhaust, included in sale.
    -Novitec lowering springs, do not have original springs (but why would you want to go back anyway?).
    -Eurocharged tune (required to avoid CEL with the cats)
    -Carbon LED steering wheel installed, original steering wheel included in sale
    -Wheels painted black, calipers painted yellow
    -Three extra diamond cut wheels painted black included in sale
    -Antigravity battery with lithium Ctek charger and full warranty, just installed a few months ago


    Negatives:

    -A/C control panel slightly sticky but not bad
    -One of the A/C knobs went missing, still works as normal. Stickyrx sells a replacement set of 3 knobs for $75.


    The DCT speed sensor was already repaired by Cauley Ferrari in November 2018. No PTU issues on this car. Previous owner hit the back left wheel on a curb trying to avoid a deer and to ensure a proper repair both rear rotors were replaced along with suspension components, have all receipts and no damage to the body of the car, Carfax is clean, just want to be transparent. This is why the current “star” wheels are on the car and the extra diamond cut ones are still included. I prefer the current wheels over the diamond cut.

    Can share more pictures and videos with anyone interested, have pictures of all service receipts available too. Happy to answer any questions and PPIs welcome at buyer's expense. I just had a PPI done in May and fixed the needed items as stated above.

    Clean Montana title in hand (registered under LLC), no lien.

    $157k OBO for everything. Located in Las Vegas.



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  2. ttforcefed

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    thats a big msrp car!!
     
  3. andyrichter

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    Beautiful car and spec. Glws!


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  4. megamarco9

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    why not contact Ferrari NA, or Dealer and request copy of Monroney so you have accurate MSRP and Options list.... photo of driver seat and bolster would be appreciated. Car looks very clean and love the Diamond Stitching. GLWS
     
  5. megamarco9

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    I used your link to Naples Motorsports and they show the MSRP as $392,731 which seems to indicate nearly $100K in options.... wow, and even more reason to request original window sticker. This may be one of the most optioned FF's I've ever seen. Not sure when this was listed by NMS, but photo shows 741 miles, being offered by them with 1,800 miles and now by you with 39k miles.... how many owners ?? GLWS
     
  6. megamarco9

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    I would like to add that the LED wheel is a MUST for this car... no comparison between stock vs. upgraded steering wheel... night and day difference.
     
  7. dgoldenz94

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    I have this in the binder but I don't think everything is correct. For example it shows both full power front seats and full power ventilated seats, but they aren't ventilated and the options list from Ferrari's computer system says full Recaro seats. I'm not sure where Naples Motorsport got the $392,731 figure from but it's a very exact amount so they must have pulled it from somewhere.

    I sent a text to the sales guy I talked to this weekend at the dealer to see if he can pull the info.


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  8. dgoldenz94

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    I'm the fifth owner

    Agreed, love the carbon wheel and happy that the previous owner added it to the car. I know a dealer charges like $10-15k to do that so it's a pretty pricey upgrade. The original wheel is also probably still worth around $2k resale but the trim is painted to match the exterior so I'd just keep it with the car.


    The response has almost been overwhelming so far. I put it up for sale yesterday and have already had 8 or 9 people contact me. Some of those were through FB so not sure how interested they really are but have also had four contact me through Autotrader too.
     
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  9. megamarco9

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    David... car looks great and options are amazing... with that said the options list you posted is not accurate, and looks like something Naples Motorsports 'mocked-up' to look like a window sticker... it show's the mileage as 36,530 Cost for Full Power and ventilated/heated front seats is nowhere near $13k in cost... I am a fan of the FF and I am not surprised you have received a fantastic response to your posting... the FF is 100% Ferrari, and with a NA V12 it will continue to be sought after, driven and enjoyed by up to 4 people, as designed.
     
  10. dgoldenz94

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    I'm actually not sure where that one came from. It was in the binder full of paperwork, but I have seen these generic ones before and as you said they are often not correct because they don't match up with factory options and sometimes the prices are off.

    The FF is an awesome car and I am almost certainly going to regret selling this one because if I ever want to get another one it will be very tough to find one with such a perfect spec and the exhaust/springs already done (otherwise forking out another $15-20k for these alone).

    Appreciate the input, thank you!
     
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  11. PCH

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    Was the damage reported to Carfax? Has there been any other damage or paintwork? Rear boot paint ‘appears’ off?
     
  12. dgoldenz94

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    Carfax is clean, no other damage or paint work. Rear has never been painted. Car is ceramic coated and paint finish looks incredible. Happy to send you some walkaround videos if that would help. I also have a picture of the damaged wheel I can send.
     
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  14. dgoldenz94

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    I don’t think that thread has any info that I didn’t already disclose. I have the pictures and receipts from the work that was done. The wheels that were on the car at the time are not on the car anymore. 3 of them are fine and the one that was bad was trashed. The car will come with the extra wheels as part of the sale. Easily worth $3k additional on secondary market, Ferrari charges $4600 per wheel.

    The rear rotors were replaced along with some of the suspension components. It’s all on the receipt from Roselli. I have been as transparent as possible with the description. Anyone is welcome to do a PPI.
     
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  15. dgoldenz94

    dgoldenz94 Formula Junior

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    Decided to keep it, car is too awesome and 458/Scud markets have gone totally bonkers, which only leaves me with buying an overpriced GT3 or Turbo S. Not sure I'd be satisfied with anything I'd replace it with, so we will let the V12 scream.
     
  16. megamarco9

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    I'm glad to hear you are holding on to it... the engine is a masterpiece... at the time the most powerful engine Ferrari had ever put in a car, impressive and tells you something about this power of this car. Spec is amazing, with an option list that does not seem to be missing anything one could order/wish for on this car... you have nearly $20k just on the out-of-range paint and the list keeps going....plus the springs and exhaust... 100% that 430/Scuds among many other models have gone bonkers... congrats on a wise decision.
     
  17. dgoldenz94

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    Agreed. I’ve had my Macan in the shop all week so been driving the FF everywhere and it just sounds so damn good and does everything so well. Of course right as I make this decision someone else messages me about wanting to buy the car…but I think I’d regret selling it. The spec is too perfect plus exhaust and springs done already.
     
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  18. bb2thdr

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    I've been thinking about moving from my Macan Turbo to an FF, In your opinion, how is the FF as a replacement for the Macan?
     
  19. dgoldenz94

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    I have a Macan GTS. The Macan will obviously be more reliable and have less down time if a repair is needed, but the FF is another league for driving experience. Macan ride will be smoother, less jerky, easier to park anywhere and not worry about it. I’d say it depends on what other cars you have and how many miles you’re driving per year.

    Macan + FF is a great combo. I’m replacing the Macan with a 392 Wrangler but would def buy another one in the future. Fantastic DD. FF feels special, Macan feels like standard SUV to get from here to there in comfort and luxury. Make sure you get an aftermarket exhaust if you get the FF, the difference is night and day.
     
  20. bb2thdr

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    We currently have a 2019 911 Targa 4GTS, 2021 Macan Turbo, and 2017 California T. Probably would replace the 911 with an FF, but not sure. Just toying with the ideas. The 911 & California seem to be overlap, but I love all the current cars we have.
     
  21. dgoldenz94

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    Sounds like a win to me. The 911 still has a lot of room to depreciate, doubt the FF ever will despite the recent run-up in prices. There will always be more 911's out there and the new 992 GTS looks great so that's always a future option too. Supply of FF's is so small that if you find the right one it would be hard not to pull the trigger IMO.
     
  22. ernie

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    Never mind.

    Saw that you are keeping it
     
  23. Bondlike

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    Still available?
     
  24. dgoldenz94

    dgoldenz94 Formula Junior

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    I took it off the market because I really love the car and the 458/Scuds I was looking at have all been priced into the stratosphere, but everything has its price...send me a PM with your cell number if you want to chat.
     

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