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2014 F1 SHELL BELGIAN GRAND PRIX: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

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  1. mikelfrance

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    Luca is laughing today

    "And-a now-a you know-a why we 'av-a team orders!"
     
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  3. TifosiUSA

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    +1 fantastic job by Daniel. He is a breath of fresh air.
     
  4. TifosiUSA

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    Agreed I think Kimi will continue to do better. As i said when they first became teammates, I think Alonso will have the upper hand but Kimi will have plenty of weekends where he comes out ahead. He is too good of a driver to think otherwise
     
  5. Bas Jaski

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    One of the (British) F1 journos said that whilst Hamilton was moaning on the radio asking to retire the car (the first time he did it), Schumacher would be figuring out how he could win this race/salvage points.

    And he's right.
     
  6. ricksb

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    In fairness to Hamilton, he's seemed to have done an admirable job salvaging points from bad outings this season (he's had a few). If the car sucks ass due to damage and you're already down an engine, I can understand him wanting to save the engine so that he's not caught out at season's end.
     
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  8. watt

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    Didnt Lewis refuse team orders to let Nico by at Hungary? Might that have lit the fuse for today? .....
     
  9. Bas Jaski

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    I agree, but he started moaning quite early on. Anything could've happened, a SC or rain both wouldn't be out of the question.

    Can you imagine him parking it and a lap later the SC comes out? He would likely have been well into the points.
     
  10. gsjohnson

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    And Hami tried to run Nico off of the track in the closing lap at Hungry
     
  11. moretti

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  13. iamthesimpleone

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    An opportunity to force Lewis to give up the racing line that was his? Leading driver has right to the line. He had successfully defended it. Therefore, nico's only move was to force the driver to avoid a collision? Wreaks of desperation to me.
     
  14. ricksb

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    Closing the door on a pass is not running someone off the track. The leading driver is not obligated to let the trailing driver pass. Nico did the same to LH at the start of the Canadian GP.

    Technically, they just made their cars "wide" on the race line. As long as their block is a single move, the leading driver has the right to defend their position. The rule changes once they are side-by-side, then it's anyone's game.
     
  15. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Personally, I think Rosberg and Raikkonen had great races but my driver of the day would be Ricciardo. I also think that Lewis would recognize the move from Rosberg as being one that he hasnt been afraid to do many times over the years. If Lewis did a bit less whining about the car, teammates and everything else I would actually quite like him.
     
  16. IamRobG

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    If you don't take away the podium at Melbourne, Ricciardo would only be 20 points behind Hamilton and a more serious threat. If Red Bull does their low wing setup in Monza, they're going to threaten Mercedes in a big way and completely knock out Ferrari. Williams might be up in that fight also.
     
  17. IamRobG

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    Oh and Magnussen gets a time penalty.

    McLaren’s Kevin Magnussen has been handed a 20-second post-race time penalty by the stewards in Belgium for forcing Ferrari’s Fernando Alonso off the road during the closing stages of Sunday’s Grand Prix at Spa-Francorchamps.

    The incident occurred on the penultimate lap of the 44-lap contest as Magnussen, trying to defend fifth place from Alonso on the approach to Les Combes, edged the Spaniard onto the grass.

    The stewards immediately announced an investigation and, having heard from both drivers and examined video evidence, determined that Magnussen was at fault.

    “The driver of car 20 [Magnussen] was defending his position on the straight between turns 4 and 5,” read the official stewards report. “A significant portion of car 14 [Alonso] was alongside car 20. The driver of car 20 did not leave enough space for car 14 and forced the car off the track.”

    The penalty drops Magnussen from sixth to 12th place, denying the Dane his best finish since the season-opener in Australia and lifting Force India’s Nico Hulkenberg into the final points-scoring position of tenth
     
  18. moretti

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    Oh I think Dan can win this without being dirty ..... while those idiots in the silver HOS fight each other , Dan is quickly coming into the picture and the body language in the green rooms after the race are very telling, Rosberg use to stroll in like he was some sort of demi-god and now he is listening to Dan and others .... the times they are a-changing Niccy boy
     
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    Rosberg had to do it. In every battle with Hamilton so far, he's been the one to leave room and Hamilton doesn't. This time he didn't back out and of course Hamilton kept driving like he was the only one on the track.
     
  20. moretti

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    One's an optimist , the other a whinging pom :p
     
  21. gsjohnson

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    So I guess no foul today for Magnussen with his Alonzo block move...
     
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    Exactly right, the leading driver does have a right to the line, and Lewis had to make a choice, either keep where he was because he was allowed to and hope Nico backs off, or take the gamble that the car won't break if he doesn't back off, I can see the situation going both ways. Watch just about any documentary about Senna. Prost and many others have stated Senna was famous for doing that very thing, often. Schumacher famously talked about Senna's extremely compromising tactics when Schu was first racing with him, that's probably where Schu learned it
     
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    Dan is currently my favorite driver out there, he's just fantastic and he has a great attitude. I'm really warming up to Vettel too, he is very good to Dan and his success.
     
  24. Aircon

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    You guys are a crack up.
     
  25. IamRobG

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    People don't read much..

    Repost from 439



    McLaren’s Kevin Magnussen has been handed a 20-second post-race time penalty by the stewards in Belgium for forcing Ferrari’s Fernando Alonso off the road during the closing stages of Sunday’s Grand Prix at Spa-Francorchamps.

    The incident occurred on the penultimate lap of the 44-lap contest as Magnussen, trying to defend fifth place from Alonso on the approach to Les Combes, edged the Spaniard onto the grass.

    The stewards immediately announced an investigation and, having heard from both drivers and examined video evidence, determined that Magnussen was at fault.

    “The driver of car 20 [Magnussen] was defending his position on the straight between turns 4 and 5,” read the official stewards report. “A significant portion of car 14 [Alonso] was alongside car 20. The driver of car 20 did not leave enough space for car 14 and forced the car off the track.”

    The penalty drops Magnussen from sixth to 12th place, denying the Dane his best finish since the season-opener in Australia and lifting Force India’s Nico Hulkenberg into the final points-scoring position of tent
     
  26. ricksb

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    Say whaaaat? Canada? Monaco? Certainly not the string of malfunction races. I think Nico has raced Lewis as tough as likewise..
     
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    Hambone whining on the radio says it all for me, the guy doesn't have the mentality and nico knows it. All nico did was put himself in position, he let hambone do his usual thing and assume that no one would dare to challenge him, and for once, hambone came off worst. After that, hambone was too busy moaning to concentrate on maximising his postion, and nico just needed to get points. I hope he continues to grab them till the end of the season, as I hate the prospect of hambone winning a championship again
     
  28. Axecent

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    Rosberg saying only one or two were booing him in the crowd. Cracked me up. I can only imagine how the team feel post race....rule #1 is 'don't crash with your teammate'. Both drivers will face the rebuke.
     

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