2014 F1 SHELL BELGIAN GRAND PRIX: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

Actually looking at that picture really does make Nico look like a loose cannon to me.

Danke Pete...

 

It's extremely unlikely, I agree...so was Kimi winning the title with 2 races to go and 17 points behind (back when there where only 10 pts for a race win)!

I know it's unlikely...but if it happens I want the world feed cameras all on the Merc big boy executive faces. We might just see Ricci's helmet explode from the grin inside.

 

I have not done the maths, not my strong suit but if it happens, I can honestly say I'd be chuffed, even though he is spoiling the Aussie image of coming over like a real nice geezer...

 

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No worries, the local residents do their best to keep the image alive.

 

Don't let facts get in the way of such a superior emotional battle. Telemetry is the devil!

 

LOL of that I have no doubt, but I'd feel so miserable without them, it's almost like having them here..

We can have are opinions along with the ones that paid to watch the podium ceremony, it does not necessarily mean they are wrong..

Lets not forget, it's all about the show, however -You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time..
AB

 

+1

That pretty much sums up my feelings too....

If nothing else this battle has at least somewhat silenced the "F1 is dead' brigade.

They race hard, they're idiots.
They don't race hard, they're idiots.

All depends on who's ox is being gored I guess.

Cheers,
Ian

 

As long as the axe swings both ways I'am happy, as RicksB has pointed out, it seems the trailing driver has more rights than I previously thought..

 

Waiter I'll have the gored ox. Rare please.

 

Oh yeah, that's right.

Nico steals all Merhams setup data. I overlooked that. Sorry.

Cheers,
Ian

 

Typical, some puns are just to bad to T-Bone...

Anyway to match your meat with Lewis, when the steaks are high and the chips are down, he tends to shine in gravy, no roast dinner is complete without a jug of proper gravy ..

 

Of course he does, every trick in the book is needed be it fair or foul..

 

haven't read the whole thread

Seems to me, the debate always continues ... how far "along side" must the inside driver be, to pose a sufficient challenge to the lead driver on the racing line so that the lead driver must yield the apex? Wasn't there a "new rule" in F1, maybe a year or two ago, that even a front wing along side the leader's rear tire poses a sufficient challenge, so that the leader must yield the apex and allow room for the inside driver to avoid a collision?

I'm quite sure this is the new rule in F1 (even though I don't agree with it). If so, Nico's actions are perfectly consistent with F1 rules (hence, no penalty).

As far as his post-race "confession", there's nothing to it. Seems he basically said that he had no intention of yielding, since (according to F1 rules, above) it was Hamilton's duty to yield. It was Hamilton who interpreted this statement as "intentionally causing the crash".

 

Apparently Hamburger Hami is the only one who heard Nico state that he intentionally ran into him. You would think that Hami has a firm grip on the English language. Guess not...

 

Yum. Joint of the day.

Still haven't seen the race so I have no informed comments. And unlike others I will let that stop me.

 

You raise a valid point about the actual point the leading driver must yield, and yes I would agree a front wing along side a rear wheel for a split second, is IMO a pathetic and more or less unenforceable ridiculous rule, from a drivers point of view taking into account they will be concentrating on getting around a corner.

So the things that occur to me are, Nico knowingly put his car into that position fully aware that Hamilton would not yield, that is a given in my book, Hamilton himself would not expect a move like that even from a driver from another team, let alone his team mate.

So it boils down to Nico making a point to Hamilton, well ok point made, but was it clever IMO no, was it wreckless IMO yes in risking the outcome ie damaging his own car, will Merc the team be hacked off with him attempting that move so early on, I'm sure they will.

So to summarize as a fan of F1, and my main gripe in the past has been about inconsistent grey area rulings, so as long as I do not hear a bleat out of anyone on here when Hamilton pulls the same trick and believe me he is more than capable of doing it, I will have no beef with them or the ruling bodies in F1.

 

Here you go, from this years sporting regulations;

We may not agree with their definition of 'significant', but there it is.....

Cheers,
Ian

 

Apparently it makes little difference whether one has seen the race or not: there are folks on here who watched it all and still seem to be blind to what unfolded

 

Thank you Ian !!

 

Actions speak louder than words, it doesn't take alot of working out does it

LOL it's just as well mate

 

Well Hamilton will and can have field day now, whatever was he thinking trying to tip toe his way from the back of the field, oh but I forgot he has done it numerous times, step up the aggression Lew game on ...

 

Its good to know that there are some things that one can rely on.

 

+1

Ox -> gored -> who's?......


Cheers,
Ian

 

Why so much fuss about the Spa incident? Two guys with identical cars, similar speed, often running close and both are fighting for the championship: sooner or later it had to happen. At Hungaroring Hamilton slammed the door on Rosberg and nobody complained because Rosberg managed to avoid the crash. Here he didn`t or wasn´t willing to. So what: this kind of things happen almost at any race.

Now for Mercedes the important thing is to stop the escalation of violence. If they suceed then this will be just a racing incident like many others. Also I think that internal fight would be less convenient for Hamilton than for Rosberg so he should avoid confrontation.