2014 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX - RACE ***SPOILERS***

Pit Pass has had no updates since the initial report.

 

It's the middle of the night now is Japan. Unlikely we will get any further updates on condition till morning their time.

 

Would be a bad permanent installation.

But I was thinking in terms of a temporary barrier that could be quickly deployed during the time crews were in front of the permanent barriers, and just as quickly removed when the work was done.

Not a good barrier, but better than plowing into a group of course workers and a crane.

 

Not necessarily:

He is breathing on his own and the surgery is over. He suffered a severe trauma to the head/brain. So now it is the usual waiting game again (Schumacher part 2): Survival of the next 24 hours is critical.

 

While it's very unfortunate what happened to Bianchi, some of you are acting new, like there has never been any races in the rain. There has been other races with way worse weather conditions than what we had at Suzuka last night.

China GP from several years back comes to mind. Don't recall what year it was, but that race started under SC and had way more laps behind the Safety Car, and IIRC, was red flagged, only to be resumed later.

A lot of you bring up the argument, "Oh, they should have post-poned the race till Monday, or they should have ran it earlier or on Saturday"

Then we would have ticket holders complaining. If you're a local, then it shouldn't affect you much, but you have people flying in from all over the world to attend these GP's. Postponing a race would affect many people's wallet. having to extend your stay at a hotel, change flights, etc, just more $$$.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say people's money is worth more than Jules or anybody's life for that matter, when you have an international event, it's not easy making changes I would imagine.

IMNSHO, I don't think the rain was that bad, considering a typhoon was rolling thru Japan. Most of the race was ran on intermediates and without incident.

I don't know who was complaining about the lift being parked next to Sutil's car, but, they were RECOVERING his car! Geez, some people.

What happened to Bianchi was a case of wrong place, at the wrong time. Had he gone off anywhere else, or at a different time, he most likely would be okay right now.

Speedy recovery Jules!

 

"fading light" may be a contributing factor.

Again, F1 risks driver's safety for TV ratings.

 

Nonsense.

F1 has always been dangerous. It is part of the attraction.

In fact F1 was even more dangerous before there was TV and TV ratings.

 

When has driving in F1 ever NOT been a risk?



Mark

 

Seriously? You can't compare air travel to ground travel. Especially when there's a ****ing typhoon.

It looks pretty bad, everything behind bianchis head was sheared off.

That's such a stupidly ridiculous comment.

Yep, if it wasn't for those ratings no accidents would happen. Ever.

 

Yes, but I only care about the driver cell. The real question is of course what damage the impact did to the brain. Apparently he hit the traktor so hard that the Sauber fell off the hook. That's insane neg Gs

 

The logic with some people.

Like when that kid got out of his car, walked onto a live track, got hit and killed. A voice in the video immediately said, "Tony Stewart just hit that guy!", NOT, "damn that stupid guy just ran out onto oncoming traffic and got ran over"

 

Simply unforeseeable bad luck. If the crane wasn't there, Bianchi may have crashed into the Sauber or track workers. Freak occurrence at a bad spot on the track. It's easy to be the Monday morning quarterback and criticize, but I think the track workers were doing what they were supposed to, not to mention exposed themselves to greater danger in rushing to save Bianchi.

IMO, they should be applauded, not criticized, for their handling of the situation.

 

When there's a typhoon perhaps you shouldn't be racing....

 

Absolutely. Travel back in time before Bernie's TV dollars and tell me how safe things were.

 

There were no high winds on the track. So what you really mean is don't race in the rain.

 

As someone else mentioned, most of the race was run on intermediates. Races at Malaysia are regularly more treacherous.

 

To take that thought one step further:

While danger is part of the attraction most people do not want to see somebody hurt, bleeding or dead. While a horrendous crash like Senna's gets the sport into the news media, in the long run it is bad for business: No serious sponsors want to be associated with death and dismemberment. It is simply bad for business.

Bernie & Co. have long realized that and did everything to make the sport as safe as possible. Granted we had lots of moments of luck in the past, but the statistics speak clearly for themselves.

So I would even reverse the original comment:

BECAUSE there is TV and TV ratings, the sport has become less dangerous.

 

Yep.

Friggin' 'eh! + Lots!

And, FWIW, the medi helicopter took off at pretty much the same time as they were loading Jules in to the ambulance for a car ride. "Safer, and wouldn't have saved time" was one reason I heard he didn't go by air.

*But*, the significant thing is the choppers could fly had they been needed. I'm pretty sure that Prof Sids rule that they can't go out, at all, if the choppers can't fly remains in effect.

Get well soon Jules,
Ian

 

Assuming the reports of severe head trauma and brain surgery are true,...

There is absolutely no chance he is breathing on his own. He will be in a medically induced coma for several days,... probably hypothermic,... and on a vent.

That said,... he MAY have been breathing on his own on the way to the hospital and upon entering the OR.

 

So you are saying the official statement is a lie?

That's rich.

 

"LIE" is your word. I stand by what I posted. (and if you are going to quote me... quote all relevent parts)

 

+288

Driver's die a lot more than get press, just the ones that happen on TV bring attention from those who don't follow racing.

 

As someone mentioned earlier, the bbc is now saying that they're not sure if he's breathing on his own due to conflicting reports...no idea who is making those conflicting reports though.
Best Sammy

 

That's a good point.

 

Nah, it's your opinion. I'm just stunned you wouldn't accept an official statement. But that's your choice.

That said I admit I was surprised too to hear that he is breathing on his own. I'm guessing the emergency surgery was opening his skull to relieve pressure and so I would agree with you that he is in an artificially induced coma and that normally brings a ventilator with it.

OTOH I can't imagine they would get such a crucial fact wrong when making a comment. Oh well.