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  1. Steve355F1

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    #1651 Steve355F1, Nov 22, 2014
    Glad I tuned in to see Kimi only 1.7sec behind his team-mate.

    That's pretty good for him. :(
     
  2. Aircon

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  3. Steve355F1

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    #1653 Steve355F1, Nov 22, 2014
    No. Judging by the commentary after FP3 I can see where the Kraftwerks of the world come from...

    So, the most important question this weekend is:

    What has to happen for Ham NOT to win the championship?
     
  4. VMax

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    #1654 VMax, Nov 22, 2014
    Should've been Jules :(

    The turbos and energy recovery systems are as F1 as it gets IMO. Suck every drop of performance out of the resources you're given, (mostly) within the rules - what's not F1 about that?
     
  5. VMax

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    #1655 VMax, Nov 22, 2014
    A f**kup by him or the team, really.
    Sky did a handy guide to the actual maths:
    http://i.imgur.com/c9tpx2h.jpg
     
  6. Steve355F1

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    #1656 Steve355F1, Nov 22, 2014
    If they'd allowed unlimited fuel, or more importantly fuel flow, I might agree.

    But for me, F1 is supposed to completely blow you away with the performance and sound.

    The fact that the cars are slower now than 10 years ago and sound about as exciting as a speech by Julia Gillard is an absolute tragedy.

    And completely the opposite of what F1 is supposed to be.

    When the GP2 and even GP3 cars sound WAY WAY better, and in the GP2 case at least are virtually as fast there is something seriously, horribly wrong.
     
  7. I16

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    #1657 I16, Nov 22, 2014
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  8. VMax

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    #1658 VMax, Nov 22, 2014
    Everything sounds rubbish compared to the V12s, so if they aren't gonna bring those back, IMO we might as well face the fact that noise is just wasted energy. The old turbo era had limited fuel and boost pressure, not many people complained about that! I think it's just something to get used to. And I love that you can hear the cars doing so much more now!
     
  9. Aircon

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    #1659 Aircon, Nov 22, 2014
    Last qualifying for the year.....Nico nails it.

    1 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:41.308 1:41.459 1:40.480 13
    2 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:41.207 1:40.920 1:40.866 12
    3 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1:42.346 1:41.376 1:41.025 18
    4 19 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1:41.475 1:41.144 1:41.119 20
    DSQ 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:42.204 1:41.692 1:41.267 12
    DSQ 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:42.495 1:42.147 1:41.893 17
    7 26 Daniil Kvyat STR-Renault 1:42.302 1:42.082 1:41.908 18
    8 22 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:42.137 1:41.875 1:41.964 18
    9 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:42.439 1:42.168 1:42.236 15
    10 14 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:42.467 1:41.940 1:42.866 19
    11 20 Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 1:42.104 1:42.198 13
    12 25 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Renault 1:42.413 1:42.207 12
    13 11 Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 1:42.654 1:42.239 15
    14 27 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:42.444 1:42.384 12
    15 99 Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1:42.746 1:43.074 14
    16 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:42.768 8
    17 21 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1:42.819 8
    18 13 Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault 1:42.860 8
    19 10 Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault 1:44.540 7
    20 46 Will Stevens Caterham-Renault 1:45.095 8
     
  10. Dave 456

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    #1660 Dave 456, Nov 22, 2014
    RB starting from the back of the grid?
     
  11. simon klein

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    #1661 simon klein, Nov 22, 2014
    Pit lane,dodgy front wing..........................apparently.
     
  12. IanB

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    #1662 IanB, Nov 22, 2014
  13. VMax

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    #1663 VMax, Nov 22, 2014
    There's a rumour going around that the stewards discovered a rubber-encased leaf spring arrangement. If that's true, it's pretty blatant!
     
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    #1664 kena, Nov 23, 2014
    How do the others do it then? When you see the slo mo shots they all seem to flex alarmingly. They have to a bit or they'll break I know but I'd be fascinated to hear how the amount etc. is measured.
     
  15. VMax

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    #1665 VMax, Nov 23, 2014
    Article 3.15 of the regs says no flexibility, and article 3.17 describes how they test and put limits on the inevitable slight flexing that must exist. There's a shot of the Williams laps sitting quite far back at speed then popping up again under braking, but who knows whether that's within the specific numbers that are allowable? RBR said they'd been singled out unfairly, but others are saying that several teams were tested on Friday and passed no problem.
     
  16. Aircon

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    #1666 Aircon, Nov 23, 2014
    Lewis got a good start, and didn't have to push for the rest of the race. Poor Nico....but even if he'd won, Lewis had the WDC in the bag

    1 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 55 1:39:02.619 2 50
    2 19 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 55 +2.5 secs 4 36
    3 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 55 +28.8 secs 3 30
    4 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing-Renault 55 +37.2 secs 20 24
    5 22 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 55 +60.3 secs 6 20
    6 27 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 55 +62.1 secs 12 16
    7 11 Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 55 +71.0 secs 11 12
    8 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 55 +72.0 secs 19 8
    9 14 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 55 +85.8 secs 8 4
    10 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 55 +87.8 secs 7 2
    11 20 Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 55 +90.3 secs 9
    12 25 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Renault 55 +91.9 secs 10
    13 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 54 +1 Lap 18
    14 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 54 +1 Lap 1
    15 21 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 54 +1 Lap 14
    16 99 Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 54 +1 Lap 13
    17 46 Will Stevens Caterham-Renault 54 +1 Lap 17
    Ret 10 Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault 42 Retired 16
    Ret 13 Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault 26 Power unit 15
    Ret 26 Daniil Kvyat STR-Renault 14 Power unit 5
     
  17. Aircon

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    #1667 Aircon, Nov 23, 2014
    wow...lewis looked really relieved and emotional on the podium
     
  18. moretti

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    #1668 moretti, Nov 23, 2014
    My nightmare team for Ferrari would be LH/SV

    My dream team would be DR/JB
     
  19. IanB

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    #1669 IanB, Nov 23, 2014
    did you notice him crying in the drivers cool-down room?

    I thought he was gracious in victory. It was a well deserved WDC.
     
  20. Aircon

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    #1670 Aircon, Nov 23, 2014
    I did.

    he was.

    it is.
     
  21. VMax

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    #1671 VMax, Nov 23, 2014
    Pity Massa couldn't quite get there at the end though. I think Williams deserved a win this year somewhere. Battery (and I assume tyre) problems in the last few laps stopped him :(

    Great job by Dan as usual!

    Ross Brawn rumours drew a hard stare and an "I....don't know" from Piero Ferrari after the race.
     
  22. perrm

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    #1672 perrm, Nov 23, 2014
    Top drive from the pits. There was some good strategy and some great overtaking moves. He really does seem to like the fight.
     
  23. kerrari

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    #1673 kerrari, Nov 23, 2014
    Kind of interesting to compare the pre-race Lewis (giant gold chain, swaggering, trying to look like some sort of hiphop hero) to post-race Lewis (teary, gracious, humble almost). I guess the mental hype needed to get yourself to these ultimate levels leads (unconsciously of not) to the former, but there'd be a lot less hate towards him if we saw more of the latter.

    Let's hope DR sticks with his natural self when he's stepping up for WDC! He really is the driving star of the show at present, IMHO of course!
     
  24. PAP 348

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    #1674 PAP 348, Nov 23, 2014
    Went camping this weekend, so I missed the race unfortunately.

    But I agree with you, was a well deserved WDC.
     
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    #1675 PSk, Nov 24, 2014
    Agree. Must feel completely different from the one he won with McLaren.
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