2015 F1 BRITISH GRAND PRIX: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

If Hamilton made the call because his tyres were done it was not a great call and a great prediction but only a necessary call and he had some luck with the rain. It looked that Hamilton had major problems with this set of tyres at that point of the race with a wet track as Rosberg was catching up 2 seconds a lap.
As for Monaco: most people agreed that it was a wrong decision of the team, and the team involves Hamilton and the guys in the pits. The Hamilton fans on the other side said it was all the team and Hamilton had nothing to do with it as it is not his job to make a call. This time it is all of the sudden so please do not talk about double standards...

Sorry Steve, but this post says more about you than the others. Whoever does not join yours and toils praise is labeled pathetic, bonehead and hater and lacks intelligence...I think this is the most arrogant post I read in a while over here. You are judging about people just because they have a different opinion as if yours is the only one making sense...This attitude is what annoyes people over here, not the fact Hamilton is winning races.

 

oh c'mon. Staying on your teammate's tail because you can use DRS doesn't make you faster.

Bottas was allowed to race Massa and he couldn't get past. Period. And when it started to rain... Bottas faded away rapidly anyway.

Put him in the Ricci pile of overrated drivers.

 

Fantastic race in the end.

I really think Williams screwed up big time...Bottas was much faster as was evident, even when in relative dirty air, and only allowed to attempt to pass cleanly on one part of the track. I think he could have easily pulled a 5 second gap. Not the first time Williams did this either, they had great pace in Austria 2014 IIRC but instead of trying to win the played it save and tried to double podium...

Kimi was great all weekend, I take no argument on this. He made the wrong call in difficult conditions (Alonso among others also pitted the same lap), and it didn't work out. Tough luck...

Vettel was either below average this weekend or Kimi stepped his game up, I don't know. Either way his race didn't go too great until the rain came, he was very quick and made the right calls, and the podium is a fantastic result!

Both Merc's with a bad start, but played a simple strategy out perfect. I told my mates that Merc should pit lewham and he'll win it the lap he pitted. Shame Williams with all their computers just played it too save. Actually not a great race from Mercedes, but plenty of experience and luxury of being able to lose a race played out very well for them.

Shame young max dropped it, looked like the same setting Kimi had in Canada/Austria...?

Force India looked very competitive, great start from both drivers especially Hulk. All Merc engined cars had a good start I think.

Not much to say about Mclaren, great that they scored a point, but unable to say how their reliability was with one car out in the first corner.

Lotus boys finally clashing. Really expected this to happen about 28 races ago and on a regular basis though!

 

Well that is your opinion so be it, however you have pulled it out of context, but either way I don't really care, because you maybe surprised to know that many may share the same view.

So to surmise back in context, I stated at the time it was a lap of the gods moment for Hamilton, on his call on boxing for inters, in other words it could go either way, as it happened, it was a spot on call.

So yes a percentage of luck combined with a judgement call on weather predictions was on his side.

But to attribute it all down to luck, and seemingly implying this was the reason he won, IMO is pathetic, besides the fact he is a superb driver in the wet.

 

I don't think anyone's done that.

They happened to get it exactly right. Kimi, for example, made the switch a tad early and Nico a tad late - Bad luck.

If it had pissed down a minute or so earlier, we'd all likely be celebrating a Kimi victory! A minute or so later, and a Nico victory.

As it was, he lucked into the perfect stop. Not taking anything away from him, just the way it went down.

Cheers,
Ian

 

+1

Hamilton has enough talent that we don't need to attribute every victory to it. Today, it would be clearly false. He lucked out today and won, maybe next race, he'll win because of his racecraft again.

 

Please explain me why he was lapping 2 seconds slower than Rosberg before the pit stop?
I think he needed to pit rather than do it by choice. Nevertheless I would not call you pathetic bonhead lacking of intelligence if you think different

 

I maintain for whatever reasons, whatever he does for some is never good enough, always been that way and I see no end to it, ever!...bizarre to me, because I find him one of the most entertaining and thrilling driver/racer out there.

 

I think your right

And for the record I didn't call you a bonehead lacking intel ...did I ..you chat great in my lingo ..I can't say the same ..

 

I think today we were lucky to have a good race to banter about here

 

+1 Again agreed.

 

+1 Well said!

They're not all "instant classics" as some seem to expect. In fact, as Isobel noted after Canada, "true fans understand many are "snoozefests" - Always been that way, always will be.

Having said that, the way Franks guys came off the line must be giving the Merc guys some real headaches..... They were darn near blown off the track at the start!

Cheers,
Ian

 

I see Merc tweaking their next batch of PU's

 

After earlier form, I was expecting a Mercedes steamroller this afterrnoon: 2 Mercedes, 2 Williams, 2 Force India and 2 Lotus in the first 8 places. That didn't happen.

I think Williams' lack of strategy prevented Bottas to overtake Massa and breakaway. Had the Finn been able to pull away at the start, when his speed was showing, the race would have had a different ending.

 

Yes I flew off my seat the dual Williams lightning start. Amazing. Do you think Mercedes are now seeing a diminished return on their improvements??

 

Now then what did I tell ya ....pack it in now...
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+1

Situation played to his favor, but he still had to be where he was to work it out.

 

''Ve vill not have zis again, ze showboating is ova!''

 

+1 more sense, it's getting better I'll hang around on here

 

LOL ...it's crying out for zat caption..

 

Same for me on the impression I expected from the race. As far as Williams - Bottas should have passed and tried to extend. On the harder tire he fell back to Nico's nose. Most likely Massa would have passed him on the harder tire. He had 2+ second gap and controlled it easily after stop 1(Massa).

No matter though - Bottas for me needs to be much more aggressive or at Ferrari Vettel will bury him. His lack of dominance compared to Massa overall doesnt show me he is that great overall. Also there was never a moment for me when Mercedes would not win this race.

The press can paint a Williams problem tactically but after the first stops LH was always going to be in the lead. No question. Mercedes knew this and Bottas was not a 1 sec per lap faster than Massa or either Mercedes. In the end with or without rain it was decided and the result was a Mercedes 1-2. Mercedes managed their tires, confirmed the pace and under-cut timing for LH. Done.

 

+1

I certainly don't claim to know, but either both the Merc boys ****ed up their starts or Williams got their all important "mappings" right.

One of them I can see - Dear ol' Mark was the master of the moonwalk as we know - But both of them?

Makes something of a mockery of Uncle Ron's claims about the PU suppliers only doing "good" for themselves.

They're obviously still the class of the field. And they also have two very fine jockeys pedaling the things too.

But, IMO, they may be reaching a plateau while the others are still climbing. And the others (at least as long as they've got Merc power anyway!) *WILL* catch up.

Probably not this year, but "soon". As any longtime fan knows, it's all cyclical. Had the rain gods been in a slightly different mood Kimi would have won and we'd be bantering about;

- Ferrari's brilliant strategy call and
- how the Merc domination is now over.

Cheers,
Ian

 

MercedesKraft.......

Where was he when Redbull/Vettel was on top ?? => MercedesKraft.

And entertaining ?? I rarely see him making a great (overtaking), thrilling manoeuvre, maybe becuase he doesn't need to => MercedesKraft.

He and his team wins races, exploits his/their advantages to the fullest, just like Redbull/Vettel did previously, probably becuase he's a good qualifier and more importantly; he's in the best car, by far => MercedesKraft.

 

Yes LH said post race it was a lack of traction. They need to get the Williams map lol!

+1 on the development race. Next year for the others. Mercedes in control for now.

 

Luck on our side for a change...