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  1. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    This is what i wanted to hear from kimi....nopw, maybe Merc will pull a rabitt and blast everyone else but things start to look good for us:)
     
  2. classic308

    classic308 F1 Veteran

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    at least Ferrari APPEARS to have turned it around some what.....
     
  3. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

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    from my post in the other thread:

    I read this very interesting bit somewhere around Ferrari's new and improved pull-rod layout. Probably why the front-sensitive Kimi & Seb will probably enjoy the new 2015 car:

    "...instead of the conventional ‘A arm’ or wishbone arrangement, it instead had what in effect was just a single arm but with a forked end into the chassis. To get the equivalent strength of a conventional wishbone, this had to be much heavier but in eliminating the second arm it removed a key aerodynamic blockage in the creation of the vortices ahead of the sidepod. The Mercedes W05 therefore got to have its aerodynamic cake and eat it, with good front and rear downforce.

    This suspension innovation has been copied by Ferrari on the new SF15-T. Although the car retains – uniquely among the 2015 field – pull-rod front suspension, it has Mercedes-like single lower arms with forked ends. The pull-rod layout already gives a clearer airflow passage (because the lower arms are higher, further out of the way of the airflow coming off the front wing) but with the single lower arms, it’s now clearer still.

    Ferrari’s aerodynamicists should have plenty of scope to place the vortices in just the right place to accelerate the overall front airflow. This should be vital in clawing back front downforce almost certainly lost to the very different nose layout.
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  4. cmos

    cmos Formula Junior

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    Given that the teams only have a total of 4 PU's for the upcoming season, then reliability and long term performance retention has to be a concern. No use running the 5th race on a PU with only 50% power! Seems like Mercedes (and maybe a few others) have that covered given the number of laps running the same PU in one day. I wonder if they can test high boost levels without giving any clues as to performance? Sure would be nice to see them let loose for a lap just to get a perspective :)
     
  5. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    Ferrari definitely looking promising. Too early to get hopes up, but hard to resist!

    McLaren on the other hand… Man, they have no chance of making 4 PUs last a season if they can't even get to half race distance without a blow up. They need to turn this around double quick or it's game over for their season and sponsorship prospects. Ron must be a comedically agitated site right now.
     
  6. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Great stuff from Allison & Kimi. They worked well together in Lotus and seems they made a great improvement here as well already. Fingers crossed!
     
  7. nsxrebel

    nsxrebel Formula 3

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    Where did they say they had a blow up?

    Last time I checked, it was a cooling leak.
    Mercedes had one too, but theirs was easier to locate/fix.
     
  8. Kiwi Nick

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    Thank you for mentioning that. This goes way under acknowledged. I don't think it was a coincidence that Lotus turned from loser to winner when they arrived in enstone.
     
  9. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Yap...i guess that was what Mauro was talking about....
     
  10. John_K_348

    John_K_348 F1 Rookie

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    This is interesting. I am wondering if the F14-T was slow because SF was being conservative and nursing the power units? Or rather just under geared them for reliability and extra care? Well haha, they had a whole season to figure that out so it couldn't be that simple. It is nice to see competitive power and speed now. MB seems to have a busy front wing. What's going on there?
     
  11. Kiwi Nick

    Kiwi Nick Formula 3

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    I wish the FIA would limit the front wing to one or two fixed elements.
     
  12. tervuren

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    +1

    Very exciting combo, Although I wish it were a Torro Rosso younin' in place of Seb, otherwise, I'm happy to see Alonso gone, and a designer/driver pair that can work together.

    If only they can keep from innane pit strategies, I may enjoy following Ferrari this season. ^^

    As for testing, it may be Ferrari changed the least on their engine, leaving tokens in store, with less to "test" and "break in", they are working on the aero/suspension instead, and hence, the faster times.
     
  13. tervuren

    tervuren Formula 3

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    Hit a half inch thick steel plate with a 20lb sledge hammer under high speed photography. "Fixed" is very relative. The FIA puts in tests, teams pass the tests....
     
  14. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    92 laps for the Kimster is great. But i'm still very cautious. Last year, reliability wasn't at issue. Rather, various factors were.
     
  15. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    What's that bulge on the nose?
     
  16. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    Thanks - very interesting.
     
  17. nsxrebel

    nsxrebel Formula 3

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    Camera to monitor front tire I believe, IIRC.
     
  18. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

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    Negative, that one was to measure the amount of flex in the front wing.
     
  19. nsxrebel

    nsxrebel Formula 3

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    That was the other thing I was thinking too. I read it on Skysports live blog, I stayed up all night following the blog.
     
  20. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    New day, Kimi in front.....i'm starting to believe!!!!
     
  21. Ferraripilot

    Ferraripilot F1 World Champ
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    From sky sport Italia speaking with Toto. Translated well:

    "The W06 is not an evolution of the W05 like many people said, but a completely new car even in the layout, but I don't want to get into details. In Jerez we're always running full tank and with a racing setup, so everyone else could infer our pecking order... we cannot know where other teams stand if they don't run or run with low fuel. In Barcellona [test] 1 and especially [test] 2 we'll concentrate on pure performance, when all the developments for the [Australia] race will be ready.
     
  22. classic308

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    Ferrari and Mercedes very positive and stable on turn in per autosport's trackside man. Kimi must be happy.
     
  23. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    Haha! Toto is getting sick of the performance question already. I'll be curious to see what times they put up when they go for performance.

    Why would they do an entirely new platform do you think? Were they worried that with F1 re-writing the regulations again everyone would gain too much ground?

    I can't imagine trying to "manage costs" in F1. Almost sounds like an oxymoron - throw out the car almost every year and start from scratch. Just crazy.
     
  24. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Yap, and if he's happy...i'm also happy :)
     

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