But he has had two bad starts in a row when he had pole. Compound that with Lewis having good starts, and Rosberg screwed himself the past two races. In the beginning of the season, Lewis had some really crummy starts, and as of late he has been practicing and it shows.
I'm not arguing that. In fact, I'm saying exactly that. My comment is to the couple of people arguing their own view of the Rosberg/Verstappen incident whilst all the people who the world SHOULD be listening to (people with F1 experience) are all saying the same thing: Penalty was out of order.
And the funny part is that they do not realize that talking down Rosberg also takes away something of the "achievement" of their hero...The worse they make Rosberg the less achievement is it beating him contradicting their own argument that Hamilton always drove against superb team mates...
I say let them carry on. Put any backmarker, GP2/3 driver even into that car today and he'll win races and the championship. The Mercedes is a class of 1, it has no competition. If all you have to do is outrace your teammate (who many Elton fans have gone on record on saying he's ****, has no race craft etc)...then I can't really respect it all that much compared to other championships. Also one of the reasons why I don't really rate Jacques Villeneuve. He almost managed to lose the title to a much slower car, whilst his was class of the field (despite that, he also never impressed me much in other seasons and especially off track).
I'd have to say that JV's first or second year with BAR was impressive since he was driving a sh#t car he scored points with it on several occasions. He actually was driving better those years than his championship year.
Not all think like that I have tremendous respect for Nico and he is likable But if he goofs up it should be ok to question him as well as the same for Lewis
Italy Backs Rosberg Over FIA Penalty The Italian media has backed Nico Rosberg after he was penalised for an overtaking move on Max Verstappen at Hockenheim. "Lewis (Hamilton) knows," Dutch teen Verstappen smiled after the German grand prix, referring to what happened between the Mercedes teammates in Austria. The stewards levied a penalty against German Rosberg at Hockenheim, ruling that he drove Verstappen off the track. Even Mercedes team chairman Niki Lauda didn't mind the penalty. "I understand it's a 50-50 decision because he (Rosberg) went too wide," he said. Ironically, it was the normally Ferrari-supporting Italian media who lashed out at the FIA's reaction. "Rosberg's penalty was nonsense," said Giorgio Terruzzi, writing for Corriere della Sera. "The fact is that Nico cheated Max, but this is a race." La Gazzetta dello Sport's Umberto Zapelloni agreed: "We have too little overtaking anyway, so this should not be punished." And Autosprint editor Alberto Sabbatini said sarcastically: "I suggest to Charlie Whiting that, in future, cars instead drive one at a time against the clock like in downhill skiing."
Certainly everyone has the right on his opinion but it is strange that those supporting Hamilton constantly bash Rosberg no matter what he does...Yes, he screwed the start just like Lewis did numerous times before but when Lewis does it it is because of the Mercedes and not because of him...I remember that after Spain some even thought that Rosberg might have a special launch control giving him an advantage over Hamilton (no matter how ridiculous that sounds). Now it is because Rosberg is "loosing the plot". When Rosberg does not overtake he is a girlie and lacks race craft, when he does (in the same ruthless manner Hamilton did numerous times to him like in USA 2015) he is also to blame...I just can imagine what the Hamilton fans would have said if Hamilton would have got the penalty instead of Rosberg for doing this...No matter what Rosberg does, people laugh about him but at the same time they ask for more respect for Hamilton. They are pissed on some calling him "Elton" but only refer to Rosberg as "Nicole". Actually they ask others for standards they never meet themselves. And if someone tells them that bashing Rosberg does not do any favour to Lewis in comparisation all of the sudden they all tell what great driver Rosberg is, just to start with the bashing as soon as the discussion turns away again. Your post above might be genuine but excuse me if I do not tend to believe it with most of the people because it is repeating... And concerning the penalty: Lauda said in German TV that NUMEROUS drivers told Verstappen before the race that he should not make moves under breaking and that the things he does are very unpredictable and therefore dangerous. Apparently he smiled at them and said he had no clue what they are talking about. It looks like Verstappen does not make many friends among the drivers and I am curious how the Hamilton fans will react when he crosses path with Lewis that way. I am somehow sure that the oppinion will be quit different from Sunday Not to mention what would happen if Hamilton sits in the pits and the stop watch does not work
Well, I agree that race control is far from consistent, but: Nico on full steering lock, while being too wide/far into the corner, ging very slowly: https://streamable.com/b1t2 Nico didn't make it stick within the confines of the track. So I just have to rely on racing- and ex F1 drivers who have different opinions among themselves on almost every subject and incident including this one.
Or he was, you don't know. As far as I know it has to be a majority decision between the stewards, not unanimous. It consist of 3 stewards, different ones every race. The stewards all weekend have been making a HUGE mess of things. -GP2: Pierre Gasly has a fire extinguisher go off at some point during the race. He recovers however (it blasted in his face), he eventually finished 3rd by completing a sensational move on the finish after a brilliant last corner. Stewards DQ'ed him, taking away 3rd, and meaning he had to start last for the sprint race -GP2: during the start, stewards judge someone pushed another off the track in T1, which did not happen -F1: Practice: Elton has an unsafe release. In the past exact clones of this incident have led to either a reprimand or a grid penalty. Team gets a 10K fine. -F1: Quali: Force India sends the wrong tire back to Pirelli in Q1. Driver is still driving around, so presumably this tire sending back thing is the teams job. Driver gets a grid penalty. So we have an incident the driver is at least partially responsible for, and it's deemed the teams fault, yet we have something the team is entirely responsible for, and they punish the driver? -F1: Race: Rosberg move. Perez does the same thing yet he receives no penalty. I'm sorry, but you lot can't defend this. Either ex F1 drivers are wrong, or Perez needs a penalty.
Time to appiont fixed, dedicated F1 stewards. Wolff says F1 penalties still inconsistent Wolff says F1 penalties still inconsistent Mercedes boss Toto Wolff says Formula 1 is still lacking consistency with its penalties after Nico Rosberg was punished for his incident with Max Verstappen in the German Grand Prix. The Mercedes driver was handed a five-second time penalty after pushing Verstappen off the track when passing the Dutchman at the hairpin as they battled for third place. Wolff reckons that other drivers have pulled similar moves in the past without being penalised. "People get pushed out of the circuit all the time," Wolff said. "One is being penalised, the other not. "So this is what I mean with inconsistent penalties. What's the remedy? I don't know. "We want to see hard racing, but I can sympathise with a five-second penalty. Not that I am not saying it is completely wrong, it is just important to know if and when and what the penalty is." Red Bull boss Christian Horner, meanwhile, says the fact that the onboard replay showed Rosberg did not try to make the corner played against the German, despite the cars not making contact. "You can argue it is a racing incident, but I think if he had locked up all four wheels and there had been a puff of tyre smoke, and so on, maybe he would have got away with it," Horner said. "The problem is it looked like he stopped and then kept going, as if he was off to Cologne, so that is probably what caught the attention of the stewards. That is down to them, not us."
Horner's position makes a lot of sense. I think had Nico actually locked up or tried to turn the car in and drifted out on exit and pushed Max off it would have gone unpunished. Oh well, maybe next time
Nicole did not accept the stewards decision when he was penalized for doing almost exactly the same thing to Lewis, and here we are again another penalty and he still doesn't accept the stewards decision. Would not surprise me at all if he makes it a hat trick at Spa. He is seeing the championship slipping away,sorry but he is just not good enough. What do the Dutch press and ex their F1 drivers say about it?
pretty remarkable collapse i thought for sure it was a lock that nico would take it this year. there's still a lot of racing to be had and things can be streaky, plus lewis has a grid penalty that's pending.
