2016 FORMULA 1 MEXICAN GRAND PRIX RACEDAY **SPOILERS**

No way Ferrari corporate allows a ban. They could end up not getting their payment which is still a huge chunk of change.

Vettel needs to learn to troll better...on the radio...in the press. He should come to fchat.

; )

 

Enzo Ferrari threatened to withdraw his cars several times, when he was in conflict with the authorities, and it worked to a point. The same arm twisting in 2016 may bring Bernie and the officials to be more amenable.

Bernie doesn't like the installations at Sao Paulo, and want the track facilities to be upgraded. That is unlikely to happen if he doesn't show commitment to the track.

Brazil has a large F1 fan base; it would be stupid to throw it to the dogs, IMO, and keep other tracks in countries where there is hardly any public interest.

 

Well said.

 

Unlikely, but you never know.

FOM could badly shoot themselves in the foot by falling out with Ferrari.

The question has been asked several times.

Does Ferrari need F1 more than F1 needs Ferrari

 

The foam wall thing seems like a great idea to penalize without inherent risk. Like anything in F1... it's take 8 years to employ even if everyone could agree.

 

Your foam walls would be smashed during the exuberance of the first lap, calling for a safety car period to repair them.

Better to have concrete walls, and a safety car period to allow the ambulance to evacuate the first guy who hits them.

These guys don't take chance in street circuits like Monaco or Baku; maybe we should have more of them ... The lack of inherent risk is what is ruining F1. It's a PlayStation sport now.

 

how about semi-intrusive rumble strips outside of track limits? Depending on the rate of speed, the driver could be inflict slight-moderate damage to the floor and his tires, ontop of already slowing the car down.

I agree there must be a more accountable / severe consequence of going off track limits.

 

I agree; in the old days driver's respected each other because even minimal contact could prove fatal (e.g. Monza in '61), now its a demolition derby—because everyone feels that if they don't gain positions in the first lap its race over, which to a certain extent, is true...

 

Changing the subject slightly...
I don't get the strategy for Kimi. Starting on the soft tires gave plenty of options. For his two stop strategy, why not run him a little longer on both the opening stint (softs) and the second stint (mediums), so that his third and final stint would be shorter on softs. Kimi finished the race on a used set of mediums. Ricciardo finished on a new set of softs. Unless Kimi didn't have any soft tires available (and poor planning there), the Ferrari brain trust mismanaged the strategy.

 

I believe Ferrari were out of softs...

Their strategies all season have been pitiful.

Robb

 

When they put that last set of mediums (a tire he wasn't happy on) I just rolled my eyes...another great call from Ferrari. Just throw on a set of fast softs at the very least.

 

If the race stewards would have made Max give up the position after he cut half the track to stay ahead of Vettel, they would not have this problem.
FI created the issue and now they are penalizing Vettal for doing everything he could to stay ahead of Riccardo, while Max was impeding his progress and slowing down allowing Riccardo to catch up

What crock of sheit

Job well done

 

Max is a fast driver...but wreckless. Just like most teenagers on the public roads...

 

Not really. You put them in a place where they're out of the firing line for any genuine accidents, you put them on in parts of the track where they can seek advantage by nailing the throttle and jump back on. They don't want to hit the boards because even though it's a soft material, it'll break the front wings.

I very crudely made an example here. Green is the ''hamilton line''. Red is where I'd put the boards. They can pick their line through the boards or go and actually make turn 2...as it should be done. Any crashes that do occur in T1, they're not as likely to hit the boards.
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I'd like to see that with Max's line. I think you'd need a much bigger picture though!

 

All of these "flatland" tracks need some Monza speedbumps installed.

That'll fix the problem real quick.

Get them added here, and Sochi and...

 

Wreckless ? Max seems to be pretty handy with an F1 car....

And that's the thing that annoys Mercedes, Ferrari and it's drivers......

 

Hell yes. The kid is tearing down the myths and icons like there is no tomorrow.

More power to him!

Totally loved it how he didn't do the PC thing giving back the position to whining Seb. Of course he got penalized and that was fair but he gave Ricci a chance to fight Vettel, which was great team thinking.

 

Team thinking is one definition, un-fair play another...And I am curious wether you will still have this opinion in case he will really have an input on the WDC by crashing on of the two key players out just as he almost did yesterday.

 

This is simply WAAAAY wide of the mark. Peter, you're far too smart to be making such a suggestion.

 

That's the biased RTL+, Christian Danner, Niki Lauda, Der Spiegel storyline....

Verstappen and/or any of the other drivers on the grid aren't driving for Mercedes, or for the championship, they drive to get the best out of their own performance.

 

+100

He's as ruthless as Schumcher, Senna, etc, and has the skills to back it up. Off-track he's equally sure of himself and doesn't take bs from anyone.

 

It has nothing to do with RTL..., it is my opinion.
Two drivers fight for the crown, something that is very important for both of their careers. I want them to fight it out in between and certainly nobody has to go out of the way for them but on the other side nobody should take out either of them to decide that.
Verstappen was NOT in the position to overtake Rosberg in turn one but he still gave it a go taking into account to take Nico, himself or both out of the race. I think it would be allready questionable in the beginning of the season but I think it is a no-go at the end when things are so close.
There is so much discussion over here whether Hamilton is much better than Rosberg or if Nico can keep the lead and the WDC should show this, not the one getting WDC who survived Max overtaking attempts.

 

Whether it's a key championship player getting crashed out by someone else, or an engine unexpectedly blowing up, sometimes sh*t (i.e. beyond the control of the recipients of such events) happens . . .

 

If it is not that why are the stewards looking away more often than not? He got away with a lot of things in the last 3 years, even this year there are several questionable scenes.

It is certainly not of the mark that Hamilton complained in the past that he was penalized because of his colour so it is not me making up that story but him. I am only trying to find an explanation why they might look away. Another explanation would be that some (Ecclestone f.e.) want to have him as WDC rather than others...