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2017 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

Discussion in 'F1' started by SPEEDCORE, Oct 7, 2017.

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  1. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Seb has done much damage himself and is a part of the problem.......14 points lost in Baku....
     
  2. tifosi12

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    True dat. Singapore and Baku were his faults.

    Still, right now the entire Scuderia team is coming unglued and that's beyond the driver/s.
     
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  3. P.Singhof

    P.Singhof F1 Rookie

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    There were no issues of Lewis with the PU...Toto confirmed that their data showed absolutely nothing...

    You seriously blandish every race and the entire season....every race is a nail biter and the season is epic ;)
    You forgot "history in the making" today :D
     
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  4. kraftwerk

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    I hate it are you kidding me, are you talking about yourself :confused:, you have spent most of the season, I'd say 90% of your posts informing us all how you think Hamilton is the equivalent to the devil incarnate and is just lucky ad nauseam, and when questioned why you think that, you cannot back it up.

    Can you even see how that makes you look now.
     
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  5. kraftwerk

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    Yes a shame but true.
     
  6. LVP488

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    The issue is the multiplication of the problems - individually each problem (reliability, driver mistake or whatever) could be regretted but would not destroy the possibility to eventually take the championship.
    A good (?) point now is that the championship will be lost by such a margin that no particular incident could have reversed the situation if avoided.
     
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  7. kraftwerk

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    Yes agreed a fair point, it is an accumulation of unfortunate circumstances.
     
  8. LVP488

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    Does not mean it's just bad luck that could not be avoided - there are responsibilities for these circumstances, but it's become more a global problem than individual ones.
     
  9. kraftwerk

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    Yes seemingly so..
     
  10. ricksb

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    What's surprising is that Ferrari/Vettel didn't have a DNF for over a year (I think) prior to Shanghai, and now they have a complete siht show the last three races. This season went from a nail-biter to a laugher.

    Most unfortunate is that Ferrari had arguably the fastest car for all three of those races.
     
  11. BMWairhead

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    It's funny how a few of you swore you were done with F1...and yet here you are continuing your whining and grumbling like the amateur Monday morning quarterbacks we all are...

    The realities are: 1) it turns out Hamilton isn't such a bad driver (yes, it pains me to say that, but it's true). 2) Stroll would drive circles around every one of us...so would Palmer. 3) it's not some lame sound or complicated engines that make racing dull...the racing has been dull LONG before the current formula. Aerodynamics mean that the cars can't be in close enough proximity to pass without a serious decrease in performance...which prevents passing (when and why was DRS introduced?). 4) cars don't blow up regularly like they used to...and most of you probably don't even know about the 107% rule because it hasn't been an issue in years.

    So many of you are longing for the good old days that didn't really exist.
     
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  12. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    +1 as the car has the most potential unrealized.
     
  13. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Stroll and Palmer cant drive around their peers not us. Thats the problem. Stroll with no money via family would sit in the stands. Palmer has been shown the way out of the sport. You are not making much of a point with them.
     
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  14. A laugher? Au contraire. It was, and since it was, for that reason shall always be (it's not over yet either...) a nail biter. If it ends a blowout, does that make it any different than if it started out a bore only to have the leader run into trouble so it ended close? I don't know about the rest here, but this is why I follow all the racing I do....because of the anticipation and appreciation, for and of, whatever transpires. ;) :)
     
  15. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    NO seaso is perfect. This overall has been a good one. Im happy. F1 is never perfect....ever.
     
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  16. BMWairhead

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    You chose to refute the weakest part of my argument? They ARE F1 bad, but not the first, not the worst, and...not the last.
     
  17. bernardo66

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  18. TheMayor

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  19. Allrighty. You take the Daytona and I'll gamble on "having" the furthest signboard holder... :D
     
  20. 375+

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    Lewis didn't make any friends with Indycar drivers after his comments regarding the caliber of the competition.
     
  21. 375+

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    Vettel's Corvette probably had one as well.
     
  22. DF1

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    It was not an argument worth making.

    I watch every race, practice and qualy. As many other fans do here. We have to wait for the new rules to address much of what you stated. People complaining about F1 LOL. New is it??
     
  23. 375+

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    Sainz is "on loan" to Renault through next season. If Ricciardo moves on from RBR at the end of next season Sainz could be his replacement.
     
  24. BMWairhead

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    It's the incessant "that's it I'm done with F1..." ...only to see the same people whining about the same issues one or two weeks later.

    Fine. Be done with it or take the damn rose tinted glasses off.
     
  25. I understand your intent but don't you mean "Be done with it or put the rose coloured glasses ON"??? :)
     

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