2018 Formula One Season ***Possible Spoilers***

https://www.motorsportweek.com/joesaward/id/00332

 

Ocon squeezed the throttle coming out of T1 into the T2 righthander. Ocon is unlapping himself. Ocon is the one that should be very careful unlapping, let alone the leader of the race.

He wasn't even racing for the points, or anywhere near them ffs.

 

In the end I don't think it's fair to blame Verstappen for the crash (hence why Ocon got a 10 sec stop and go penalty, and not Verstappen).

A driver is allowed to unlap himself, no one is disputing that. But a driver unlapping himself always has to do so without impeding the driver in front of him, what Ocon attempted to do was going to impede Verstappen, since where they collided was the racing line. Had max went off the line, he'd be on the dirty side and he'd be attacking T3 from a **** angle on top of that. Ocon should've used his brain and not go on the throttle so quickly, and simply DRS pass him on the straight towards T4.

Ocon was not in the fight, he was so far out of the fight that he was already a lap down and in 16th place, far from any points. Max had Lewis close by so he can't go about losing time lifting off for Ocon, and when Ocon's tyres inevitably worn out Max would almost certianly lose more time lapping Ocon again....Ocon who hates Max (back from F3 days) and is paid by Mercedes, and out of a job, I imagine him not being in so much of a hurry to let Max pass a few laps later. I'm sure that Scenario must've played through Max's head anyways.

Could Max, in hindsight, have moved over a little bit? Yes of course. But as a leader of the race in a close battle with a superior Mercedes, who you really do not want to get back into DRS zone of, you just expect a little bit of professional courtesy and common sense to be used by the driver trying to unlap himself.

Ocon should be deeply ashamed of himself.

 

Had Max let Ocon go he would have won the race - he didn't and ended up second.

Pretty obvious who made the wrong decision I think.

 

I think that Jos has schooled Max from the outset that building a reputation as someone dangerous to overtake is necessary to win a WDC. It's the Senna/Schumacher/etc method: make people think twice before committing to a close pass. Jos was a "modest talent" driver, who saw this aproach work for others.

When you drive a fast open wheel car, you depend on "muscle memory" - there is no time to think about what you're doing.

Max's "muscle memory" is to shut the door on people every time. It's in his nature and we've seen it many times in many races.

 

You've got to know when to hold them......
(cue Kenny Rogers music )

 

Yep,all day long.!

 

Nobody listens to you ....... least of all Horse

 

True, I very rarely read his posts - full of ******** chest thumping and picking on you!

 

Water and a duck's back come to mind

 

Don't know why he doesn't stay in the F1 section.

 

It is my belief that the sweater man had already done the deal with LeC and they couldn't get out of it, so no seat available.

Much to my annoyance

 

He was always welcomed there with open arms

 

Yes, good article in current Motorsport largely confirms that.

 

Yes, but you ignore the important part where Ocon is the one to take greater care overtaking since he's already a lap behind, which is expected from racing drivers at this level (and the reason why we see so few incidents of drivers unlapping themselves and taking out leaders). Ocon showed no care and no respect, he treated the overtake as if it was for position. He had no business doing so and if he used his brain he would've DRS'ed passed before turn 4 anyways.

The whole point is that Max expected some professional courtesy where Ocon had none. That's Max's mistake. Should he have left more room in hindsight? Of course. But hindsight is always 20/20. Max/Vettel/Alonso should've moved to Mercedes when they had the chance.

 

Yes, but it was Max’s race to lose.


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Yes, but it was Max’s race to lose.


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Bas, you make several valid points but other drivers, especialy those fighting for a championship also expect some professional courtesy from Max, and he has shown none.

 

We heard you the first time

 

MAx was also fighting for the championship. And I assume the times this season when Vettel and Verstappen collided....guess what, only China was Max to blame for and he held his hands up.

Ocon was not in the championship, he was not even in the points or anywhere near them.

 

No Bas, he wasn't, not when he decided to make Ferraris his target....Max has never been in a fight for the championship, but that never stopped him to mess around