2018 Hungarian GP Pre Race thread | Page 2 | FerrariChat

2018 Hungarian GP Pre Race thread

Discussion in 'F1' started by DF1, Jul 24, 2018.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/137609/red-bullrenault-tension-over-new-ricciardo-parts

    Renault's decision not to provide all possible new power unit elements for Daniel Ricciardo at the German Grand Prix has prompted frustration at the Red Bull Formula 1 team.

    Red Bull picked Hockenheim for tactical penalties for Ricciardo as it knew they would be inevitable at some point after failures earlier in the season and wanted a clear shot at the upcoming Hungaroring race.

    But Renault only allowed Red Bull to introduce new examples of three of the possible six elements, fitting a new MGU-K, energy store and control electronics but not the anticipated new V6, turbo and MGU-H.

    Taking all six components would have given Red Bull an extra safety net in its pool of engine parts without further penalty when Ricciardo was already destined for the back of the grid.

    It was clear before the race that Red Bull management was frustrated by the decision, with team principal Christian Horner telling Autosport it was "a question for Renault" and adding "the normal strategy is to change everything you can".

    There is tension between Red Bull and Renault as they approach the end of their relationship, exacerbated by Red Bull's ongoing contractual hold on Carlos Sainz Jr complicating Renault's driver plans for 2019.

    Ricciardo was then forced to retire from the German GP with a power unit failure, although exactly what failed, and what elements will not now be reusable, has not been disclosed.
     
    G. Pepper and 375+ like this.
  2. Etcetera

    Etcetera Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 7, 2003
    22,243
    Full Name:
    C9H8O4
    For Abiteboul, every approach is a childish approach.
     
    Bas likes this.
  3. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

    Mar 24, 2008
    41,359
    ESP
    Full Name:
    Bas
    Here they secured the 6th consecutive WCC. :)
     
    crinoid and NEP like this.
  4. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

    Mar 24, 2008
    41,359
    ESP
    Full Name:
    Bas
    A 1-2 for Ferrari with Verstappen or Ricciardo in 3rd would be a great. Last year we started 1st second (and finished), bottas 3 elton 4. With Red Bulls very close. If Red Bull ups their game we could be right there again in the championship end of Sunday
     
    G. Pepper, mcimino, jcurry and 2 others like this.
  5. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2016
    20,711
    Corpus Christi, Tx.
    Full Name:
    Joe R Gonzales
  6. crinoid

    crinoid F1 Veteran
    Silver Subscribed

    Apr 2, 2005
    9,464
    Full Name:
    LaCrinoid
    NEP, nietoale1, mcimino and 3 others like this.
  7. crinoid

    crinoid F1 Veteran
    Silver Subscribed

    Apr 2, 2005
    9,464
    Full Name:
    LaCrinoid
  8. P.Singhof

    P.Singhof F1 Rookie

    Apr 19, 2006
    4,810
    Stuttgart, Germany
    Full Name:
    Peter Singhof
    And once again Toto says they would have made the same strategy call if it was Bottas leading....
    Well Toto, it WAS Bottas leading until you brought him in for new Ultras with the sole purpose to cover Kimi but not to attack Lewis. You could have left Bottas out and give him the chance to win but then maybe Kimi would have had a shot at Lewis ;)
    So Bottas chances of winning this were taken away from him to cover Lewis and you still want to tell us there is no preference??? :D :D :D
     
    stavura, NEP, 375+ and 1 other person like this.
  9. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

    Jun 6, 2011
    13,611
    Vila Verde
    Full Name:
    Pedro Braga Soares
    2 brits as stewards..that's not a good sign!!
     
  10. 11506apollo

    11506apollo Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 16, 2008
    2,493
    Tx Co Ca
    They don't get salaries.....they get bonuses.
     
    stavura, NEP, crinoid and 1 other person like this.
  11. G. Pepper

    G. Pepper Three Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Mar 15, 2012
    33,964
    Texas/Colorado
    Full Name:
    George Pepper
    Beautiful locale.
     
    tomc and NEP like this.
  12. Patrick Dixon

    Patrick Dixon Formula 3

    Mar 27, 2012
    1,084
    UK
    HAM was what, 2 or 3 secs a lap quicker than both BOT and RAI immediately before the safety car, if he hadn't boxed he would have been 3rd or 4th.
     
    ricksb and kraftwerk like this.
  13. P.Singhof

    P.Singhof F1 Rookie

    Apr 19, 2006
    4,810
    Stuttgart, Germany
    Full Name:
    Peter Singhof
    How do you know how much was left in the tires. Maybe during this period he was playing it safe and safed the tires for the finish. Nobody knew by that time that there would be a safety car shuffling the things. As Kimi was changing tires a lot earlier it was most likely that he might have to change again and Seb was out of reach. How do you know that this was the best Valtteri could give at this time???
     
  14. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

    May 12, 2007
    26,826
    England North West
    Full Name:
    Steve
    Yes and some drivers can push under adverse conditions, other drivers can't...;)
     
  15. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

    Mar 24, 2008
    41,359
    ESP
    Full Name:
    Bas
    Helmut Marko about Ferrari‘s PU: "Mercedes had 4 years the best engine, now it‘s Ferrari. They need to accept that and not wash dirty laundry." What Marko refers to: Again and again Mercedes questions publicly the Ferrari PU

    Helmut Marko: "We at Red Bull do not participate in these rumors. We know what Sebastian can do, including engine development. He was one of the people that made sure that Ferrari overtook Mercedes."
     
    dflett, stavura, 375+ and 6 others like this.
  16. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2016
    20,711
    Corpus Christi, Tx.
    Full Name:
    Joe R Gonzales
    #45 jgonzalesm6, Jul 25, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2018
    Surface in front of garages was sandblasted ahead of the Hungarian GP for better grip to avoid accidents as they happened in DTM. Big test ahead for surface: Could have some heavy rain on Saturday and Sunday.

    Image Unavailable, Please Login



    2018 DTM Hungaroring MERCEDES AND BMW PIT CRASH (one of the Marshalls gets his leg/ankle sandwiched against the concrete column with the orange Mercedes)

     
    G. Pepper, Bas and NEP like this.
  17. Etcetera

    Etcetera Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 7, 2003
    22,243
    Full Name:
    C9H8O4
    Joe's pictures are 1000x more interesting than the racing.
     
    tomc, G. Pepper, Bas and 3 others like this.
  18. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Six Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 22, 2004
    69,311
    Moot Pointe
    Agree. I really appreciate these threads, especially Joe's contributions.

    Well done!
     
    tomc, ricksb, 375+ and 1 other person like this.
  19. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Six Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 22, 2004
    69,311
    Moot Pointe
    Toto:
    "We did everything exactly the way we planned."
    "Lewis was faster."
    "Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes? "
    "Oh, yeah. And Ferrari cheats."
    :rolleyes:
     
  20. ingegnere

    ingegnere F1 Veteran
    Silver Subscribed

    Sep 12, 2004
    5,247
    Montreal
    +1
    Just wish I could see all his pictures on my phone :)

    OT, how can I report the fact I don't see pics on my Android device to the site admin?
     
  21. fer312t

    fer312t Formula Junior

    Nov 16, 2010
    777
    Not quite...

    1 Brit. 1 American. 1 Italian-Venezuelan
     
    Jack-the-lad likes this.

Share This Page