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2019 Barcelona GP Pre-Race discussion

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  1. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    1,2,3 could be just 1 too???
     
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  3. william

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    There was no chicane (turn 14) in the past between the 2 right-handers (turn 13 and what is now turn 15) on the previous layout.
    A chicane was added to increase lap time, and mostly to reduce the entry speed on the tribune straight.
    Barcelona, like most circuits, had to respect the wishes of the FIA, FIM, etc ... that are scared of speed !!
     
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  4. Mitch Alsup

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    This does not detract at all from what I said.
    The racing would be more exciting taking full speed into T15; especially now with DRS.
     
  5. william

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    No, you are absolutely right; the racing would be more exciting, I agree.
    I just explained that Barcelona was probably Under pressure to add a chicane.
     
  6. DeSoto

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    One of the reasons for that chicane is that cars couldn't make T15 at high speeds behind other car, so overtaking chances at the straight were worse.

    Bikes have not aero problems and were not doing the chicane until one or two years ago, when they introduced it for safety reasons
     
  7. jcurry

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    Why not make it a big oval ...... oh wait.

    I always thought F1 was about the driver. Changing layouts to max out speed is about the car.
     
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  8. william

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    I don't mind bends and corners, but chicanes are my pet hate.

    In the case of Barcelona, the layout was changed to reduce speed.
     
  9. willwork04

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    I am ready for the Spainish GP!!
     
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    F1 has dropped the price of their F1TV premium tier-level subscription from $99.99 to $79.99 with immediate effect. Great for fans with access to it, bad news for their profit margins:


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  11. DF1

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    So Racing Pointless looks good having a paddock cappuccino lol in the new facility
     
  12. DF1

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    So pay less for lack of coverage lol :)
     
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  13. DF1

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    #140 DF1, May 8, 2019
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    Spanish GP: Can Red Bull become F1 2019 contenders with upgrades?
    Sky F1 expert Mark Hughes looks at Red Bull's season so far, unexpected chassis struggles and a much-anticipated Spanish GP upgrade which could make or break their campaign...

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/32420/11709342/spanish-gp-can-red-bull-become-f1-2019-contenders-with-upgrades


    Expectation lies heavy upon Red Bull as we head to Barcelona, the traditional venue for the raft of updates and the possible re-aligning of the competitive orders seen in the first four flyaway races.

    It was here two years ago, after a difficult start, that Red Bull began to pull itself into competitive shape after lagging badly behind Mercedes and Ferrari in the opening races.

    There are certain other parallels to 2017 for Red Bull. The early-season balance difficulties came in the wake of new aero regulations and in both instances the Red Bull drivers were complaining, in the early races, of a car that feels disconnected between the front and rear ends.


    Trackside observation backed up by GPS readings show that the current car is often the absolute fastest into slow corners from turn-in to apex. But it then becomes quite unstable at the rear on corner exits - and its speed in fast long-duration corners is well below that of Mercedes.


    In the first two races the car qualified over one per cent adrift of pole position. There was a step change improvement after Bahrain but it was still around 0.6 per cent down in China and Baku. As an average over the four races, the RB15 has qualified 0.64s slower than Mercedes and 0.384s off Ferrari.

    One of the less publicised but very significant changes to the 2019 regulations was the limiting of the under-wing nose strakes to two each side where previously there was no limitation. These strakes are used to divide up the airflow between that travelling to the barge boards and down the sides of the car and that channelled to the underfloor. They are crucial in joining up the upper and underbody airflow that is such an essential part of how the current cars maximise their aerodynamic performance.

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    Because of the extreme way its high-rake car works, it seems that Red Bull has suffered more than other teams in this regulation limitation. The car is aerodynamically powerful as it dives under braking into slow corners and its drivers can carry a lot of speed up to the apex, but as its platform then levels out or pitches under acceleration - and stays relatively level in fast corners - that aero performance is somehow being lost to the detriment of rear end downforce, and the area of suspicion within the team has fallen to how those under-nose strakes are directing the flow.

    Modifications to how the flow worked this area were what was behind the improvement between Bahrain and China. A more fundamental change, incorporating this new knowledge, is planned for Barcelona.

    These upgrades will be, according to Horner, "fairly subtle".


    "It will be the usual front and rear wing upgrades," he explained. "It's evolution rather than revolution."
     
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    --Honda's performance is ever-improving but GPS analysis suggests it's still around 0.5s down on Ferrari in qualifying mode and so it's therefore unlikely to be a pole-contending car at Barcelona regardless of aero improvements.--
     
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    Mercedes update is enormous apparently....
     
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    Interesting, I wonder if that was a directive from Ferrari or did HAAS & Alfa make their own decision??
     
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    No idea. Mid field battle is very tight so could be that Haas/Alfa are opting to wait until Canada to get the brand new engine as initially planned.
     
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  21. william

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    It's obvious which is the most reliable engine so far.

    Toro Rosso is the sacrificial lamb for Honda development programme.
     

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