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  1. macca

    macca Formula Junior

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    In the magazine 'Vintage Motorsport' for Nov/Dec 2001 (vol. 2001/6), there is a report of the Merrill Lynch/Brian Redman International Challenge at Road America on July 19th-22nd.

    On p10 there is an uncaptioned (I hate that!) photo of a Ferrari 512S (s/n 1004, John Geordano, it says elsewhere), and another red-and-blue car that looks like a 206S crossed with a P4. The reporter says he was driving a 'Causey'. Was anyone at that event, or does anybody know anything about this car? Is it a Ferrari or a Causey P3?


    One definitely genuine Ferrari 206S is s/n 028 which has a 312PB-style body on it. There are a couple of thumbnails on Barchetta, but does anyone know where there are any better pictures, since it seems to be in the US?

    Paul M
     
  2. P4Replica

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    The car you are referring to is the Causey owned by Mike Kaske. Although it appears very similar to a Causey P3, Mike calls it a "1965 Causey P-6 Special". The car races regulary at ‘Vintage’ races across the U.S. Mid-West.
    There are a couple of photos of it posted on the author Burt Levy’s website. Burt sometimes co-drove the car with Mike in ‘Enduro’ races, such as here at Road America in 1999. See:

    http://www.lastopenroad.com/photos3.htm or http://www.lastopenroad.com/bs99-01.htm and
    http://www.lastopenroad.com/photos7.htm or http://www.lastopenroad.com/bric011.htm

    The most recent race results I could find for the car are:
    http://www.toadhallracing.com/RoadAmerica_G7.htm (Did not start) and
    http://www.svra.com/2004_ra/results/dairyland_Enduro.html

    I came across the Causey P3’s purely by accident, and had no initial intention of including them in my register, as I personally wouldn’t really class them as P4 replicas – but, then again, there are some obvious similarities in the bodywork. My first contact with them came at the end of 2002, when an ex-Causey owner emailed me through the club website, seeking to locate a P4 replica ‘project car’. His own Causey P3 (three were built in total) was powered by a “Brian Hart 4 cylinder motor, with a Hewland box”. This car was apparently street driven in the Warren, OH area for a while.

    I had a brief session of emails with Mike Kaske back in January of this year, although his email server and AOL’s servers didn’t seem to like ‘talking’ very much, and several emails got lost ‘en route’. This one got through luckily:

    “Hello Paul,
    Glad the msg got thru. A little about the history first; The first chassis were built in 65', but the bodywork wasn't completed until 66'. Actually what the Causeys' did was photograph Pedro Rodriguez's car with a perspective
    control camera and then went back to Indiana and scaled it to fit over the allowable wheelbase and track that SCCA allowed for B sports racers. Of the 3 cars, 2 were Ford powered units, and the 3rd (mine) was Porsche.
    The Causey brother's Dad owned Cline Porsche NW in Indianapolis at the time and they were racing 356s. When they decided to build these cars, mine was originally going to have the Carrera motor. By the time it was ready to put it all together in early 66', they decided on the 901 2 litre that just came out from Porsche. What we run in the car is that motor, except it's a 906H configuration. With the car only weighing 1200 #s, it's pretty quick. We use a
    Hewland box. The original had a Porsche box but it was too troublesome and we wanted more flexibility in gear changes.
    These weren't kits. Causey built them but was really only interested in the Porsche Unit. Buddies from his shop built up the other two cars.
    As for the whereabouts of the cars, your contact has one of the Ford cars. It has been street driven for a while and the pics I saw of it show heavy modifications to the bodywork. The other one is here in Wisconsin and I have
    provided a complete set of bodywork to him. (I forgot to mention we got the molds with our car when we found it) He may have it restored in a few years.
    I have little knowledge about some of the P4 kit makers. I've seen a few. I guess you could say this is a P4 replica in the fact of using Rodriguez's car as the design pattern. I don't really think of it that way. I'm just a racer guy who loves this little machine and drive the wheels off of it every time I can !!
    regards,
    Mike”

    Note the interesting dates quoted – the Causey brothers must have had amazing ‘foresight’ –
    It’s obviously something to do with the homologation of this ‘Special’. ;)

    By the way, the ex-owner of that Brian Hart powered Causey P3 sent me some photos, including a straight rear end-on shot. Interestingly, from this angle, the car looks far more like a 512S than either a 206S or a P3 or P4 ….
     
  3. macca

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  4. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    The 206 Dinos built for various special events are SO SWEET...

    The Euro Hillclimb cars are some of my favorites...

    I had not seen the 312PB style body before....but the were so many "specials" made by the factory, in those days....
     
  5. Old Guy

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    The 206S pictured is chassis 028. It was redone by an Abarth aerodynamicist in its present form (name escapes me right now). It was a more-or-less standard 206S spyder in its original form, but now has a body which has been described as a prototype for the 312 PB. There's some question about this -- the date that 028 was rebodied is somewhat unclear, and it may have been after the initial appearance of the 312 PB at Brands Hatch.

    The present engine in 028 is a 2.4 liter (246) Tasman engine, with four valve heads.

    The car has been owned by the same person for at least 20 years if not more, and is in New Jersey.

    Definitely a one-off, but not by Ferrari as a prototype.

    Oh, and a P.S. for Alan: Having owned a 206 S, I couldn't agree with you more.
     
  6. Bob Zambelli

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    Around ten years ago, I was at a restoration shop in/near Frenchtown, NJ and I saw a car like the one pictured. Could it be the same one? Someone refered to it as the Tasman series car. I did not ask about it so I really have no details but I recall it being quite a stunning car.
    Bob Z
     
  7. Erik330

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    I believe that it was Dave Causey who raced the Causey special. I saw it race back in the 60s. It's like a 3/4 scale replica, tiny.
     
  8. BigTex

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  9. Bill Sawyer

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    Feb 26, 2002
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    I seem to remember someone building a club racer that looked similar to the 206. I read something about it in the last year or two. Does anyone recall anything about this, or am I hallucinating again?
     
  10. MJarrettR

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    The picture Macca posted of 206S s/n 028 was taken by me at Pocono Raceway in Pennsylvania a few years ago. The car has been owned by Nick Incantalupo for almost 20 years now. In 1972 it was reworked "for" the factory with a 246 Tasman engine and 312 PB body panels. Just a tiny little car, pretty quick though.

    -Jarrett
     

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