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  1. Cris Bertschi

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  2. 275gtb6c

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    Christian , same to us. We hardly made pics during the rally as we did not have time for it.

    Thanx for the pics Cris, during these pics I was rather frantic as my papers from the organisation were gone....and they almost rejected my tires as there was no E sign on them (but also no race tires) so they allowed me to use them.

    It was a fantastic event and met quite a few nice people, also from ferrarichat. The dutch gang is unbelievable but the Italians beats everything. Every child, grandmother or schoolboy has genes with cars. Rome was historic on every point of view. Driving through the empty streets is unique.

    ciao
    Oscar
     
  3. Napolis

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    Hope you had a great time!!!
     
  4. JazzyO

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    Hey Oscar,

    we saw you coming by in Brescia (just after the start) and at the end of the Raticosa. She was looking gorgeous, I must say, and I do have a little film clip to prove it. I'll find a way to get it to you.

    What a phenomenon, this MM, we were blown away! I hope you had a great time too.


    Onno
     
  5. Arvin Grajau

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    thanking for the photos.
     
  6. Cris Bertschi

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    I know, that´s why I only took some pictures and did not say HELLO!
    Next time!
    Regards.
    Cris.-
     
  7. tongascrew

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    Looks like you had good weather. I have been there when it rains for a good part of the event and it can be no fun. When you get home or have time give us your rendition of your experiences during the event and while you were in Italy. I am sure it would be good reading and I would like to keep it with the file on yout car. thanks. just one man's opinion tongascrew PS Isn't it special driving a Ferrari around Italy. I'll bet you have some great stories.
     
  8. 275gtb6c

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    #208 275gtb6c, May 20, 2009
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    My (brief) story......

    3 years ago I started to really want to join the MM before turning 50...I was already sourcing some cars and found 0128E after visiting quite a few. The queeste is a big part of the fun. After getting the car to my stamping grounds we prepared it by adding a fan, even in my country the cooling was highly inadequate. We installed a new clutch with race padding and renovated the brakes. I also wanted to do something about the chairs and mirrors but during the time driving it I found my way without modifying or adding them. We had some problems with ignition (4 points) but solved this. Tow points (highly recommended!) front/rear, 4 point period (as far as you can say this) safety belts installed and we had shift over backrest headrest (easy detachable) for my wife, but I found them comfy too. Of course prepartion was done by checking the valve clearance and other logical things. We brought an extra battery as Julio recommended. And this was more than usefull!

    We transported the car to Brescia on Friday (a big relieve while from there the car was out of my control and save on transport. I added besides the battery a full toolset, spares and fluids. I think I was the only Ferrari without a support team!

    We flew to Brescia (Bergamo) with Ryanair! After arrival, we went to Lago di Garda with friends (with a Riva and champagne, what a start). That day was also used to do the scutineering and I was pretty frantic as I lost some very important papers and the tyres did not have the E sign on them......Normally this means race tyres and thus not allowed (anyone joining a future MM, check this beforehand as this is a no go!). We met Julio and his brother (great guys!!) and some dutch friends also from fchat. The fair hall was not romantic, but very comfortable and accessable. Organisation very friendly and well organised.

    Ok, next day we slep long, and went at 10.30 with the car (race number 151) under police escorte to Brescia centre. From there every single person went crazy for the next 2,5 days. The people just love any old car and the MM is in the genes of every child, grandmother or any other person alive and grown up with pasta. After parking the car we picked up some presents (nice watch from chopard) and met some friends. After comfy waiting we went to the MM museum (early) because I was eager in getting there. We were not the first....Before leaving I started the car and instantly heard it was not running on 12....The mechanic from the car next to us (166 MM) had a temp gun and pointed that 6 and 9 were not firing....Good start. The trip the MM was good as I had some time to change the sparkplugs of these, and I wanted to kiss the mechanic for preventing me getting all 12 out......
    In the MM museum a young guy came out (he worked there) to inform me that he actually dont liked Ferraris but fell in love with this little car. Very nice guy with all the info of the MM at hand. He new every winner or incident since the start.
    After changing the plugs we had some food and at around 20.00 h we went for the start.....Car was running fine and we were on our way. After 500 meters we saw the red/black Ferrari 195S in fire.....They had bad luck...The trip to ferrara was great fun, not too long and My thoughts as the MM being a parade went stronger. But the screaming crowds were fantastic.

    Next day (friday) went up at 6, prepared the car (that was next to Julio's) and we went for Rome .....through the mountains.....and rain......and no brakes (well period ones)....ad a 30kg battery in the back and a tank with 120 l gas...Every single corner oversteer. That day we saw 4-6 accidents, people crying next to there just ruined cars. A guy with hands in the air who just crashed his Mondial...(would have been a great picture but I did not found this appropriate..) The drizzle rain went stronger and the passes higher. This was really working but the car went fantastic! A 1951 Ferrari is a great car, lot of power and torgue, no brakes and suspension. But if you get used to this, a great car to drive. And you wont get used to your car at a highway or local event. In the mountains you will know (mayby too late) what is possible with it and what is not....) The cars that crashed in front of us was a big warning to us.

    Then at around 22.00 or so we arrove in Rome. Quite a chaos as a lot of cars outside somewhere at a bus station. At that time my battery was runnning low and people got irritated by too many cars, too little room, too much crowd. We went with an escorte to the centre of Rome, but my car wouldnt start. Marianne organised with a smile some guys and we went with a large police escorte to the very centre of Rome. And there my battry gave up.....But I had a spare one in the back. Not the most common thing to carry with you but I quickly installed the fresh one (quite a job in the very centre of Rome with a lot of people wanted to see a Ferrari engine....but no one asking stupid jokes! From there the tour through Rome started and this is unbelievable. Empty streets, all the tourist attractions and police everywhere just pushing you to drive harder.....(my top was 120....) I can spent hours in trying to describe this but I wont even try to do so.

    We parked the car in a garage and went with the empty battery and a charger (yes I even brought one) to the hotel (how romantic...) and we slept like 2.00 need to get up at 6.00....but we slept a little longer....(so we lost a lot of points.)

    From Rome to Brescia is a nightmare....about 700km's and a lot of (beautiful) cities...Screaming people but also dubbel declutching evey single gear! My feet were tired, concentration get worse and dangerous situations occured. I saw pretty late a railcrossing was closed.....Thanx to all the people outside (and a very good and friendly navigattress) we went through Sienna to Florence. We know Florence very well and it was fantastic driving through those streets. All non MM cars driving with us (big fun as they respect old cars). All the way to Maranello, bringing the old banger back to her stamping ground. But what a farce this was. Only some uninterested chitchatting people with an obligatoire drive through the factory. We got some Ferrari pins thrown into our cars and hop we where out......No fun, no respect, no screaming crowd, no atmosphere...Outside the factory, the yelling and enthousiast people were present again..

    From Maranello we still had about 4 hours to go.....And this part was the hardest. Still some cities to visit, it got darker and we got tyred. But still we managed and the kisses at Brescia were real. My God what was this fantastic. Marianne asked me: will you do this again, somewhere between Maranello and Brescia and at time I was hesitating, but in Brescia this was clear! We will do this again!

    Thanx to every nice fchatter and espacially Julio and his brother!

    Some pics without comment,

    ciao
    Oscar
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  9. Napolis

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    Fantastico!
     
  10. 8-Ball

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    Great report, Oscar.

    It sounds like a tough, but rewarding, event for both man and machine.
     
  11. SoCCieBon

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    Great story Oscar. I read your story twice. What an experience!

    If you are looking for support next year.....;)

    Marc
     
  12. stever

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    Great story on a great experience! Thank You.
     
  13. Arvin Grajau

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    Thankyou for sharing Oscar.
    Stone chips,under guards,sills ect did that happen?
    Only ask as I have found that to be a problem on second degree roads when I've been on rallie's.
     
  14. ColdWater

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    Terrific story, Oscar - very vivid. Thanks very much for taking the time.

    Don
     
  15. Ferri

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    Oscar,

    Great write-up, thanks for taking the time.

    Your haert must have sunk seeing a car on fire right after the start!

    The esperience of driving through Rome under police-escort with empty streets must be fantastic! In sharp contrast with the underwhelming reception at SpA.

    You got the car back the Brescia in one piece, AND your marriage is still intact. Kudo's!

    Did you get seriously hooked now?
     
  17. omd78

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    Thanks Oscar! Goose-bumps(?) while reading your story. This can only happen in Italy. Unbelievable the cheering by the crowds. We drove some parts of the Futapass and the enthusiasm for these modern day Ferrari's alone was onbelievable!

    Only in Italy...

    Gr. Martin
     
  18. Cris

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    Thanks for the story, Oscar.

    Cris
     
  19. DJ Dirk

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  20. 275gtb6c

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    Dirk,
    great pic (I think I saw you over there.....) Love to have that one in more pixels..and indeed it was very very cold
    Pierre and Phil (where are you.... :) were driving that part in his open car only with a poloshirt....Too stubborn to change

    ciao
    Oscar
     
  21. DJ Dirk

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    well, when i stopped on the top & got out of the car i was also wearing a polo, but quickly jumped back in to put a sweater and jacket on but was still chivering because of the wind
    but it was so worth it!!
     
  22. tongascrew

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    I know the feeling. When I had my 328 in Italy we got up in the Apenines in early May and got into a real snow storm. It's still the best time to go to Italy. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  23. tongascrew

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    Hi Thanks much for the stories and the pics. I have great respect for anyone getting thru the MM. It is a real torture test for both man and machine. I guess the weather wasn't so good but at least you were in a closed car. I can still see the the man in his D type in the gloom of early evening, in the pouring rain. in a full scale traffic jam with 200+ miles to got to Rome. Lets hope he just put it on the autostradda. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  24. 275gtb6c

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    #224 275gtb6c, May 30, 2009
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  25. JazzyO

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    The models of the people are very lifelike! :)


    Onno
     

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