This is my first post so please forgive any protocol errors. I own 1960 250 GT PF Cab series II 2135GT and we are just finishing a three year full restoration - i'll post some pix if anyone is interested - car is ready for paint (finally) and i am going with Blu Scozia over tan - Classiche has the original colour as Sabbia Sahara over Pelle Rossa. I won't bore you with details about the restoration, but I am searching for a couple of things: - history of the car. I know it was sold through Chinetti when new but that's all i know -- does anyone know how I might be able to find out what fills the nearly 50 year gap between production and my purchase in 2007? - owner's manual. I have the tool roll but not the handbook -- anyone know where I might find one, if only a reproduction? thanks for any thoughts you might have. Joe
Hello Joe. I doubt you can bore us with any of the details. Who is doing the restoration? Post pictures. Jeff
Possibile source for owner's manual: http://www.ferrariliterature.com/ The detailed ownership history of your car is almost certainly known by Marcel Massini, who would likely respond to a private message through this site. Everyone here loves restoration photos. Good luck with the project. Don
Thanks everyone for your help. Car is being restored at Healeywerks in Iowa (of all places) and we are now in something like month 30 of the restoration which I can truly say is "no expenses spared" as we are coming in at about 3X the original estimate for the restoration (although I've also added things like an original hardtop and 6 double Webers). I'm attaching some pictures from before Christmas and you can see more at www.healeywerks.com and clicking "gallery" then "current restorations" and finally on "250 GT SNXX35" One day it just might hit the road! I'll post more pix as they make progress, as slow as that may be. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
According to the Pininfarina build log for the Series II cabs the original exterior color for #2153 was "Blu sera". The body was completed 29 Oct 1960 and the original customer destination was Belgium. Classiche's information on the color for my color was orange instead of Grigio Notte as shown in the PF Log. Therefore I would tend to lean towards PF records for color accuracy. Roger, PF Cab #3783
3 times the original estimate? I hate to ask, but what is this project going to cost? Would you use that shop again?
You say 2153 but mine is 2135 - thanks but do you have any information for my car (unless your data for 2153 is just a typo and your data is for my car? Either way, thanks.
Sorry about the mix up on serial numbers. For #2135 the exterior color and interior colors given to you by Classiche are the same as listed in the Pininfarina log, Sabbia Sahara with rosso leather. Body completion date was 11 Oct. 1960. Original client was Chinetti. Regards, Roger
This is a perfect example of how dificult it is to have work done on a 50 year old car. I can't even relate to estimates at this point since it is so dificult to know in advance what needs your going too find once you get into the job. There is also the tendency to expand the work once you get exited about what you see as the job progresses. I'm almost more skeptical of body shops giving quotes in advance. It's all about what you want the finished product to be. Morris
There is no straightforward answer on the 3x but to be clear I don't at all blame the shop for that. I think the original estimate was for a decent driver but, as you can imagine or know first-hand, you only get to do this sort of thing once so you want to do it right! So I've added a host of extras that weren't in the original estimate, such as an original hardtop, six double carbs, orig but unused fuel tank, orig jack and tools and other bits and bobs . So the 3x is really more of a reflection on my cashfow expectations versus reality rather than the shop's wrong estimate. I'll have spent 3x what I expected to, but the car is going to be something very special indeed - much better than what I'd first imagined as it will truly be a world-class car (not that I'm objective, of course!). I'll admit, though, that I've been a bit of an obsessive zealot on this, as I want the best car, period Which brings me to your next question about the shop. Let me say that the proof of their worth, to me anyway, lies in the quality of the work - the rest is just process but of course the quality you live with forever. I considered it a privilege to have the chance to restore one of these and didn't want to screw it up, so I chose Healeywerks as they were highly recommended. And they've been great, with phenomenal quality and I've already started talking to them about the next project I want to do, which I guess is the ultimate acid test. So yes, I would, and probably will, use them again. Postives: -really great quality -ability to source hard to find parts (they've found verything we need and what they can't find they fabricate) -excellent monthly documentation (know where every dollar has gone, quite specifically) -time and materials basis so never feel like I'm being taken advantage of -main owner is as honest as they come -great listener and gives the right guidance when we have a choice to make (from 5-speed, which we didn't do, to how to hide the ipod) Negatives: -location (Lawton Iowa is jusr not that convenient!) So all in all, and even though I've spent way more than I'd originally planned, the car will be fantastic and the whole experience has been worthwhile. As for total cost, including paying well into the $200s for the donor car, I'll have more into it than the car that sold at Russo and Steele in Scottsdale. I'll post more pix as we complete this, thanks Joe
always interesting to see those restorations. is anybody able to complete the xxx chassisnumbers of the other Ferrari in restoration?
I'd second the original colors must have been striking, and rare, but have to say 'thumbs up' to the ones you chose. Also agree on the added hardtop and 6 carb set up! Rave on!!
Nobody knows the history of this car? How did you come to purchase it? Dealer? Private party? Auction?
how did car come out? how was shop? did they stay on time and budget? good experience? love to hear details.
I did see many photo's of the restoration on the Healey site under gallery then " completed partial restorations". Maybe it went someplace else to be finished after here. Premier Auto Restoration. Healey Werks. Ferrari Maserati Austin Healey Restoration Aston Martin Jaguar. HealeyWerks.com
Posts 11 &12 are right to the point There are so many cases of nice looking restorations covering up disasters that should have been dealt with. It certainly brings up the question of the 250 GTE. Is the well done resto worth the money when the resale value is considered? It take a certain soul to believe this.Blessings on them.It's nice to see another post here researching the original paint. I have just complete a review of 1487GT. A nice resto was done but what a shame it wasn't given it's original paint considering its extraordinary racing career with the original color. For my taste this ranks right up there with restored interiors that belong in a custom/chop and channel show that have nothing resembling the original. tongascrew
seems that they have a lot of "completed partial restorations" vs. the amount of "completed restorations".