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  1. kare

    kare F1 Rookie
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    In Raab's FSN I found following suspect entries:

    Cars listed as 250GT California Spider but should be 250GT SWB Berlinetta:
    2935GT - 2347GT - 2365GT - 2419GT - 3301GT

    Cars listed as 250GT SWB Berlinetta but should be 250GT California Spider:
    3095GT - 3345GT

    With these corrected I get the count of 162 SWB Berlinettas + 8 Speciales(excluding 1737GT; a Special Cabriolet by PF built on a SWB chassis) = total of 170 cars.

    Would appreciate comments of the above.

    See:

    http://koti.welho.com/kpietil4/250swb.htm

    for "my" list of chassis numbers.

    The speciales built using SWB chassis are listed as 9 last entries on page:

    http://koti.welho.com/kpietil4/250spec.htm

    Best wishes, Kare
     
  2. SefacHotRodder

    SefacHotRodder F1 World Champ

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    2935 - SWB Berl. - Street - LHD
    2347 - Ditto
    2365 - Ditto
    2419 - SWB Berl. - Comp. - LHD
    3301 - I do not have listed as an SWB Berl.

    3095 - Same, i do not have listed as an SWB Berl.
    3345 - Do not have listed as an SWB Berl.
     
  3. kare

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    Thanks!

    I made a stupid mistake with this one: 3301/GT has sometimes been (erranously?) listed as 250GT SWB Berlinetta, but appearsa to be a genuine California Spider after all. I think I've seen aphoto of it in an old Cavallino with Italian plates "PV 512655".

    This said, we seem to be in agreement over SWB production, which is great.

    Best wishes, Kare
     
  4. Aardy

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    I have a 70's pic for 3095GT : it's a SWB California spyder red/black covered headlights at least in 70's.

    3345GT is a silver SWB California spyder, covered headlights and is in Italy todays.
     
  5. Aardy

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    I have also a pic of 3301GT in 80's as a silver/black SWB California spyder with covered headlights with bumpers removed.
     
  6. cuxa

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    Hi Steve,
    Last year, you said that you began a "250 GT Registry" website.
    Is this site available today?
    address ?
    Germain
     
  7. Miura Jota

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    +1
    I would love to see period pics of this car too

    please !
     
  8. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Just look into "Cavallino" magazine, issue #25 and #26 (January to April 1985).
    And here are a few more old photo sources where 2689 GT is pictured:

    • (color pictured page #346 of the book “24 Heures du Mans 1923-1992”, authored by Christian Moity, Jean-Marc Teissedre and Alain Bienvenu)
    • (pictured pages 11 and 12 of “Cavallino” magazine, issue #26 of March/April 1985)
    • (pictured page 46 of the Doug Nye and Pietro Carrieri book “Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta SWB Competizione”, published by Cavalleria Series)
    • (pictured page 53 of Dominique Pascal’s book “Ferraris at Le Mans”)
    • (pictured page 22 of the Italian magazine “Auto Italiana”, issue #13 Anno 42 dated 1/8 July 1961)
    • (pictured pages 30/31 of Sandra Schroeder’s book “Ferrari Owners Club Monterey 1984”)


    Marcel Massini
     
  9. Birel

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    there is also a replica using chassis number 2365 built from GTE # 3725.
     
  10. Birel

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    I have 2419 as a normal 61 street car sold in France. Badly crashed in 1960's, restored in 80's appeared in 2001 Tour Auto in hands of Peter Bruppacher.
     
  11. toto70_0

    toto70_0 F1 Rookie

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    Not such à car, 2365 is a genuine SWB and there is replica using the numbers of 3725, which is also black . The only things they have in common , is the colour and where in the Same collection before.
     
  12. Birel

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    Thanks for the clarification on that.
     
  13. Ed Niles

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  14. bertrand59

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    Ed,

    thanks for historical photo.

    Did you keep 2689 only few months as report on "barchetta" ?
     
  15. Ed Niles

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    Probably; I no longer have my old files. The car was such a disaster that I'm sure I was anxious to get rid of it. This was at a time when these cars were only worth $5,000 or less, so restoration was not an option.
     
  16. bertrand59

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    " This was at a time when these cars were only worth $5,000 or less"

    May I keep my HYUNDAI and in 2050..........
     
  17. Miura Jota

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    #42 Miura Jota, Nov 16, 2011
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    Thanks I really appreciate it

    also I'm surprised :eek: to see this Re-Sale RED trend isn't anything new ...

    I'm excited about 2689GT , cause I just got the die cast 1:18 replica and I love it !
    that's why I bumped this old thread
     
  18. tongascrew

    tongascrew F1 Rookie

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    I have a file on each of these based on the barchetta data for each with corrections,updated info and pictures.You probsably know this but there is a Google web site for each individual chassis. Some have more info than others but for many there is stuff not in the barchetta data.The Ken Gross book is helpful but dated. Cavallino issues 77/39/104/113/95/130/25/174/12/153/184/91/164/112/160/ and Forza 97/99/84/29/73 all feature SWBs. Hope this is helpful. Will look forward to your web site. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  19. Edward 96GTS

    Edward 96GTS F1 Veteran
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    where is 2689 now? any pix?
    ed
     
  20. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Sold 10th July 2003 to Bruce A. Meyer in Beverly Hills, CA.
    Shown at Pebble Beach 2004 and 2010. Also Rodeo Drive 2004.
    See also "Forza" magazine #73 (November 2006), "Vintage Motorsport" of March 2010 and "Octane" magazine #86 of August 2010.
    Bruce, who is a VERY serious car guy, still owns it today.

    Marcel Massini
     
  21. Ed Niles

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    #46 Ed Niles, Nov 18, 2011
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    It has been with Bruce Meyer for some time now; restored and re-restored to exact LeMans-winning configuration. It's sensational to drive: It's so over-carbureted that it hardly runs below 3000 RPM, but around 4500 it takes off like the proverbial scalded cat, and a whole lot noisier. I know I have more pix somewhere, but here's the only one I could easily find.
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  22. bertrand59

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    Sorry but I don't know. What do you mean by "Google web site" ?
     
  23. tongascrew

    tongascrew F1 Rookie

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    Go to google.com. In the search section type in, ferrari 2689GT, and this will take you to the web site for this car. When you enter ferrari do this in all lowercase letters and the GT in uppercase letters.You can do this for any Ferrari s/n. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  24. etienne

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    #49 etienne, Nov 23, 2011
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    You can see currently at the Basel exposition two 250 Berlinetta Passo Corto. One of this cars, # 1771GT, is one of the first produced, and immediatly identified, without the front end rear exhaust air slots. But how many other similar BPC were produced, except 1539GT and 1613GT ?
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  25. John Vardanian

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    Re. 1771GT, besides the deleted vents and other differences, it's the shape of the nose that makes the first series car so much more attractive. The headlight position elevates as the production continues. The lower headlights of the earlier cars gives the car more of a "leaping animal" look, making the later cars look more sedate in comparison.

    john
     

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