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  1. Randy Forbes

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    #51 Randy Forbes, Jan 12, 2010
    Ahh, those pesky little holes. I approve! :)
     
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    #52 Randy Forbes, Jan 12, 2010
    That's been my experience too; first a small hole, then a bigger hole, then repair the inner sill that you couldn't even see (but you knew would be bad)!

    If that's the worst of it, you're very lucky ;)
     
  3. PSk

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    #53 PSk, Jan 12, 2010
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    I must admit (because I'm restoring an Alfa Romeo of the 70's) that after removing the outer panel bits and seeing the internal panels looking like this that I'd be removing a heck of a lot more.

    At the very least this car needs some chemical rust kill sprayed inside these box sections because as we can see there is a lot of surface rust on the internal panels that will simply keep on rusting.

    But before long I would end up with all outer panels removed ... where to stop?
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    #54 bigodino, Jan 13, 2010
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    That's exactly what Al asked us to do. It's ofcourse sad to remove outer skin that's in good health but otherwise you just can't reach the rotten parts of the inner panel. But yes, where to stop? hopefully it will be limited.
    p.s. Al reported that it's just a matter of mild surface rust, but needs attention nonetheless.
     
  5. Randy Forbes

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    #55 Randy Forbes, Jan 13, 2010
    I concur. I've seen good results with Waxoyl, though there are undoubtedly other favorites.
     
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  7. bigodino

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    #57 bigodino, Jan 21, 2010
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    Some interesting pictures today. Al writes:
    I have been (VERY!!!!!!!!!) carefully removing the l/h rear quarter to get at the inner structure for the past few days.
    As you can see it is in very good condition overrall - the worst area being the one that had caused the bubbling on the outer panel (last two pics show the inside of the outer panel.)
    I have no idea what the loose wiring behind the B post is - I'll try to trace it once I have taken the masking out of the bootlid area as that is where it seems to run to - but it's been disconnected for a VERY long time!

    I noticed the replies on the thread on Fchat - Randy Forbes I think has missed the last post you put on, and Will (246tasman) makes a very good point about SPL - I have used them before for work - the only issue with that being that the car would need to be completely stripped out with nothing but a bare bodyshell going to them & I really don't thinbk that is feasible - either within budget nor given the generally good condition of the GTE anyway.
    Also it might be worth pointing out that on the L/H sill area that I have already done I cut away more of the panel than actually needed replacing just to be able to clean off & treat the areas that had heavy surface rust. (Which I have treated in the same way as yours - POR type paint & a weld through copper paint for the areas that needed good welding adhesion).
    I do hope this makes sense in relation to the replies Peter?


    I've never seen before what's underneath the skin of a Ferrari. I think these pictures give a great insight. I was wondering if the black foam on the inner skin might have trapped water between both skins and caused the rust.

    Best regards, Peter
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    #58 kare, Jan 21, 2010
    There should be two wires at B-pillar: green (?) going to the dome light and grey (?) going to the rear window defroster.

    Everything else in the rear is grouped into the harness running under the car. Tank sensor wires (2, green and grey) branch off and the rest goes to the junction block located in trunk inside left C-pillar.

    Best wishes, Kare
     
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    #59 Aurum, Jan 21, 2010
    I couldn't help but notice that Hans' 308 GT4 has been captured in a couple photos!

    -c
     
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    #60 JazzyO, Jan 21, 2010
    Well spotted, that one should be done any day now!

    @Peter: thanks for those amazing pictures, really interesting to see the inner workings.


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    #61 PSk, Jan 21, 2010
    +100 :).

    Really is in good condition isn't it and now we can ALL rest easy that anything that was just starting to get excited will be fully sorted. Great work, of course.
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    #62 246tasman, Jan 22, 2010
    I think it is amazing that it is in such good condition - considering that there is very little sign of any attempt to protect against corrosion when the car was built all those years ago.
     
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    #66 bigodino, Jan 31, 2010
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    Al's a real metal surgeon. He's about to sow up the patient's rear fender ;)

    Al writes:
    The rear quarter is tacked back into place, I will be trial fitting the door tomorrow to make sure the gap has remained consistent before spot welding the panel fully into position.
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  17. VisualHomage

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    #67 VisualHomage, Jan 31, 2010
    agree


    the vintage body takes to vintage color quite well; most modern Ferraris don't take green very well.
     
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    #68 TURBOQV, Feb 7, 2010
    Indeed he is a surgeon! Fantastic Work! I am enjoying the progress. Thanks for sharing.

    Cheers
     
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    #70 bigodino, Feb 21, 2010
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    I think Al has reached the stage where slowly we're getting back to the GTE's former glory - preparation for the repaint has begun!

    Al writes:

    Re-masked, applied the first coat of shaping filler and block-sanded it down, you can see in the pictures where the filler is finding the low spots in the panels where the metal is showing through - rather than how she was before, with the shape just sculpted from filler.

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    #71 f308jack, Feb 21, 2010
    First time ever I read about a panel being copper coated on the inside. What is the thought behind doing this?
     
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    #73 Vintage V12, Mar 13, 2010
    Looking good.
     
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