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  1. Longstone Tyres

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    Hi

    We have re done our Ferrari 250 GTE web page https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/classic-car-tyres/ferrari/250-gte.html#page=1

    I did a write up about these wheels and tyres recently, which spurred me to get this web page as correct as possible, so please read it and if you spot any mistakes please let me know. or if you have some input that might make the page better please let me know. Pictures are a specially useful
     
  2. turbo-joe

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    I would say all ok
    would be great if you also could post the VIN changing from the 3591 ( 5,5 " ) to the 3690 ( 6 " )
     
  3. Longstone Tyres

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    Aha yes in a way it would, however at the same time that is part of the fun of a Ferrari in that it is not set in stone. there would have been a transition period

    the actual answer is if you are ready to resolve your wheel issue, contact us https://www.borrani.com/ with your chasiss number through Borranni we will find out what wheel your car fitted
     
  4. miurasv

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    Why the 330 GT 2 +2 S2 pic?
     
  5. Longstone Tyres

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    Flippin heck!

    do you mean this one?

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    from memory i took that photograph myself when i came out to the Cavalino show a good few years ago
     
  6. turbo-joe

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    but this is a 330 GT, 2nd serie, and in the back a 1st serie, double headlight, but not a 250 GT/E
     
  7. christc

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    As far as I know latter series 3 Gte‘s had RW3801.
    Cheers
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  8. turbo-joe

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    you are sure christc?
    have a look at the borrani page: last serie had RW3690, so 6 " and the serie 1 + 2 3591, so 5 1/2 ". I have both cars and those wheels ar on. if original? I don´t know
     
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  10. Longstone Tyres

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    I think there is going to be a pretty thorough write up in the up and coming 250 GTE register News letter.
     
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  11. christc

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    You mean we can reread your write up?
     
  12. christc

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    Please consider that information posted here will be very often considered as fact. I do not mean that yours is not right, but at the same time I think people posting at Tom Yangs are very expert, so the info like on
    http://www.tomyang.net/cars/borrani_info.html
    is although something I would like to be considered and discussed. Hope you take no offence.

    Thanks
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  13. Longstone Tyres

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    Hi Chris

    the intention with our web site is to get it so that it is fact. So i ask you please if you stumble across something on our web site that is incorrect please let us know, and we will change it. that goes for https://www.borrani.com/ and our main site https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/classic-car-tyres/ferrari.html

    the Tomyang site is good however, like the Borrani brochures there are some discrepancies, in that not all the cars in a model had the same wheel, so if you are in doubt contact an official Borrani dealer and we will chase through what wheel was fitted on your car.
     
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    Do you think it could be that this is an after market thing and they are offering wheels that can be fitted onto that car, which is not quite the same as what the factory fitted when it was first built?

    So i'm pretty sure that 250 GTE cars fitted 185VR15, and it was the Cinturato https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/tyres/185-15.html .

    185R15 tyres have a recommended rim width of 4.5" to 6" and this is a 6.5" rim which i think was used with the 205VR15 Cinturato CN72. https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/tyres/205-15/205vr15-pirelli-cinturato-cn72.html

    oo no hang on a minute. this is Ferrari. they don't care about recommended rim widths. they often fit over sized rims to cars. for instance the 250GT Lusso https://www.borrani.com/ferrari-wheels/250-gt-lusso.html fitted RW 3801 which we also know fitted the 185VR15 Cinturato.

    However i don't think that the RW 3801 was fitted to the 250 GTE. i think that might be a miss print in the Ferrari brochure and it was meant to say 250 GT Lusso, not 2+2. Or possibly more likely this booklet is printed after 1968 when low profile tyres were available, and they are recomending RW3801 to owners that want to fit the new low2 profile tyres. and i would say, untill Pirelli made the 185VR15 Cinturato again, the majority of these cars were fitting 205/70VR15 XWX.

    the drawing for the RW3801 is dated 3/1/63 ( i don't know which way round Italians do dates. is that 3rd of January or the 1st of March)

    Interestingly, it does say on the drawing "Intercamb con RW 3690 15-6L. which i think means it can be fitted in place of the 15"X6"L RW3690 wheel.

    So correct me if i'm wrong, but the 250 GT Lusso came out in '62? so that is before the RW3801 had been drawn, let alone built and fitted to a car??

    Flippin heck! i'm getting lost now.

    Oo just found another clue in red ink, clearly written on at a later date in what looks like Biro it says "Serve per 250GT-2+2- Bell 400/a-390 then a word i can't read beginning with R) . this is all clearly written on after t he drawing was originally done.
     
  16. turbo-joe

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    this is 3 of january
     
  17. christc

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    Seems that finally we do have confirmation that RW 3801 were an Option from Ferrari for the late 250 Gte S3! Info is from the 250 Gte Newsletter and was discovered by Marcel Massini.
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    Can you confirm please?

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  18. Longstone Tyres

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    Great. I love a bit of real evidence. we will put it on our Borrani web site.

    Shame that car was only fitted with Dunlop though. Back in this period there was quite a bit of testing being done by Jaguar who were suggesting that you could fit either the Dunlop 185R15 radial tyre or the 185R15 Pirelli Cinturato. However if you wanted to fit the Dunlop you has to govern the car to 130mph. there is a period memo from jag towards the bottom of this page https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/classic-car-tyres/jaguar/e-type.html
     
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