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250 GTO (3589GT)

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  1. amenasce

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    What a beautiful car. Amazing job by the ferrari and THJr teams.
     
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  2. Ferrari 360 CS

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    Stunning video and stunning car!
     
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  3. Oengus

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    Amazing!
     
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  4. tomgt

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    Hey, hey, now !?!
    It's Classiche built & certified authentic, so who cares if any & all details are correct or not ! :rolleyes:
     
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  6. DWR46

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    Amen, brother.
     
  7. MrJason

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    and it lives on:

     
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    Imagine what Classiche charged !!! What a great thing.
     
  9. Ferraripilot

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    Great production.

    Can anyone comment why at 21:13 of this production it shows the pistons reaching out of the deck of the block about .100" (!!) while the crank being rotated, any reason why? Is it something common with these particular V12 engines? I've heard of pistons coming above deck .010 or so but this appears egregious.
     
  10. kare

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    For years I wondered why this survivor looked like crap. Later turned out it had a terrible replica body! Great news that it has been restored.
     
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  11. thepinkumbrella

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    It is curious that there have no further comments to this…
    The seams were certainly not present in the images I have seen from when the car arrived in the UK in readiness for 1962 season.
    I’m more curious now as to how the car will be received at Pebble Beach (in class M).

    Paul
     
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  12. tomgt

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    Would the judges know......
     
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  13. Rifledriver

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    The judges for that class are well versed historians and spend considerable time researching each car.

    And are not unaccustomed to liberties taken by the restorer.
     
  14. thepinkumbrella

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    One would like to think so…unless the ‘influencers’ have taken over there too…
    I’d be curious to learn how the restoration party came to the conclusion to add the seams. Maybe the holy archives show something that the period images don’t…

    Paul
     
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  15. NYC Fred

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    That was a joy to watch. I encountered a picture of a 250 GTO in a book at about age 5-6. Stopped my heart. Still does.
     
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  16. miurasv

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    #41 miurasv, Aug 14, 2024
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    Maybe they copied the 3589 drawing. Please see snip from the Tom Hartley Jr video.

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    I think I can see a line but if so it is very faint. But that may just show where the roof joins the B Pillar/Sail Panel and is not for a seam.

    I researched the seams on GTOs years ago. Please see my post here from 2020.
     
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  18. miurasv

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    #43 miurasv, Aug 15, 2024
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    3589 GT did not have the seams in the sail panel as delivered. First 250 GTO with these was 3757 GT. However, Ferrari may have insisted/advised that the seams be added to protect the integrity of the original body as there was a weakness here where stress cracking occurred and in other places on the S1 GTO body. See post here.
     
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  19. tomgt

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    how can it be terrible if the car had a one on one copy of the original?
     
  20. kare

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    One on one copy of the original...? The new body was a terrible hack job made in the 80's by I don't know who!
     
  21. miurasv

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    TH Jr gassing 3589 up. His DB4 GT behind.

     
  22. Texas Forever

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    The definition of an "Old Banger."
     
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  23. miurasv

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    #48 miurasv, Aug 15, 2024
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    Mind you, when Ferrari Classiche restored 3387 GT through Maranel Classic they actually removed the sail panel seams that were on the body (had been rebodied in 1964 with a new later style S1 GTO Scaglietti? body that had the seams) to restyle as it was at Sebring 1962, which as the 2nd GTO built did not have the seams when new.

    When Ferrari Classiche restored 3809 GT (renumbered 3527 GT) they did not add the seams to this new body. It did not have the seams from new.

    When 3445 GT went back to Classiche to be repaired after its accident about 10 years ago they corrected the front/nose to original (but remained in the later livery) and left the sail panel seams on the car which it did not have when new. This may not have been a full restoration though and more an accident repair.
     
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  24. amenasce

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  25. Prancing 12

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    The driver has been posting a lot of content about the car, and even generic GTO content before THJ publicly announced 3589... According to their respective socials, they've been spending a lot of time together, so I think it's a reasonable assumption.
     

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