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250 GTO #4153GT sold for $80 Million.

Discussion in 'Vintage Ferrari Market' started by miurasv, May 30, 2018.

  1. tifoso2728

    tifoso2728 F1 Veteran
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    Last I heard Mr. MacNeil, the WeatherTech impresario, lived in Hinsdale, Illinois.
     
  2. Bowzer

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    Fox News reports $ 70,000,000 , who is correct ?
     
  3. ursoenzo

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    see post 19
     
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  4. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    A little less than $70 mm
     
  5. rjanot

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    David Mc Neil joined the collectors owning both a Ferrari 250 GTO and an Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato. He bought 0186/R at RM auction New York in 2015 for $14,3 mio. How many other collectors still own both these top classic cars ? I know Irvine Laidlaw is one of them.
     
  6. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    I am not aware of any others. Many collectors have large collections of Ferraris, many more have other Italian cars, only the mega collectors such as Ralph Lauren, Arturo Keller, John Mozart, Fred Simeone, Miles Collier, Chip Connor, Sam Mann and the McCaws have collections that are wide enough to encompass cars from different countries. Even then many of them collect a style or type of car such as 1930s or Sportscars..... The only one I know of (apart from the two you mentioned) is Tom Price who may own #0180/L, he does own 250TR #0754TR and 250GTO #4757GT, used to own GTO #3943GT.
     
  7. rjanot

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    Tom Price sold 0180/L a few years ago. Chip Connor also sold 0184/R.
     
  8. readplays

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    How about Anthony Bamford?
     
  9. miurasv

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    Bamford previously owned DB4 GT Zagato 0184.
     
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  10. Juan-Manuel Fantango

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    David McNeil is a first class car Guy and seems just great in person. He's a huge supporter of the FCA, and of course his company was the lead sponsor of https://sportscarchampionship.imsa.com IMSA. Real car family in general, racer, and all around nice guy. We had an opportunity to sit with him and his son Cooper at a lunch in Elkhart Lake during a FCA event. I think he said his first love was Porsche, and he has a considerable P car collection. Also seems he got is first start in business with AMG. He is at almost all of the FCA national meets, and usually drives in the Coppa GT https://www.ferrariclubofamerica.org/index.cfm/ID/112/CoppaGTOverview, and of course wins. I've seen him do it in his 288 and I think he did so in his 250SWB, Enzo, etc. Now Cooper, his son, is a chip off the old block and you can see him race on Sundays in IMSA and other pro races. That said, I hope we see David with the GTO at the FCA meet at Watkins Glen. I have not seen a "real" GTO at national in some time, at least I don't recall one showing recently. By the way ya'll, I don't think it is too late to sign up.

    https://www.fca2018.org/index.cfm

    Read this article, it tells you something about his life.

    https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a14604/i-wanna-be-like-dave/

    Marcel, you may find this of interest. Due to our attending the Car Guy Tour with Frank in 2017, I had a chance to meet Leonardo Fioravanti, the great designer who created the Daytona, the car we are honoring at the 2018 FCA meet. Of course he also did many other great Ferraris like the 308, 288, F40 etc. We have invited him to attend, but have not received a yes or no. He is 80 now, but very sharp, very spy for that age. It will be a chance of a lifetime to honor him so I hope it will happen. He is a living legend.....
     
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  11. etienne

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    Leonardo Fioravanti was present this weekend at the meeting "Ferrari against the cancer" at the circuit of Vigeant in France, to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Daytona ...
     
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  12. Juan-Manuel Fantango

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    That is just awesome and gives me hope. Why not come to America, Ferrari's biggest market? As I recall, it seems he and his son liked to do track outings, and he said he has never been to Watkins Glen, but would like to go. I may have misunderstood, but I thought he had never been to the NY area or perhaps America which struck me as odd.

    If anyone is personal friends with him, please you see him, please encourage him to visit. I do not mean to muddle or highjack this thread, as it is very important, after all, a GTO just set a record and is in beyond first class ownership. It will be used as intended. I'll start a new thread. Thank you for your input.
     
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  13. wiley355

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    Chip off the old block indeed; Cooper McNeil at Ferrari Challenge September 2017 promoting WeatherTech:

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    Maybe this is a stupid question, but is the 250 GTO that debuted at Sebring in 1962 (Hill/Gendebien) considered one of the top 3 or 4?
     
  15. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    #3387GT raced for two long years before the 1964 cars came along and while its not a bad example, has good race history etc. it was always rumoured to have been rebodied at some point in the 1970s/80s and while Marcel Massini has said that didn't happen, it can't help. I think its status is born out by the fact it took nearly a year to sell recently when most sell without instantly without fuss or fanfare.
     
  16. miurasv

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    3809 took at least 3 years to sell. Though good job for Ibing that it did due to the price rise in that time. See Marcel Massini post here: https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/145158441/
     
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  17. Igor Ound

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    What? The most expensive Ferrari ever and it’s grey?
     
  18. airspyder

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    I believe the price to be close to $65 million.
     
  19. Ak Jim

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    Do you think he will have his company make floor mats and trunk mats for these cars? Maybe he just needed a car so he could take proper measurements?



    And no, I'm not being serious! :)
     
  20. IXLR84FUN

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    Seems the 250 Series is the series to start hoarding. It has to be from start to finish, the greatest series of Road and Race cars, and year by year takes it all in.
     
  21. malcolmjl

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    You joke but he likely will. There are weathertech mats for the rest of his collection so it wouldn't be surprising. Its more of a PR thing than something they're trying to profit from though.
     
  22. Jakuzzi

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    BUT...... whose floor mats will he use for the car? ;)
     
  23. Jakuzzi

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    NOW I saw the previous comments about the floor mats. Please disregard. :)
     
  24. 635CSI

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    Quite nice to see somebody make a simple but clearly very successful product, and get to buy a GTO.
    In your face Tech Nerds !
     
  25. wildcat326

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    Met him today at the local FCA meet, where he brought his Black LaFerrari Aperta. I introduced myself (the guy over there with the 308;)) and congratulated him on the acquisition, and we spoke for a few minutes. He was incredibly cordial, approachable, and (seemingly) sincere. Clearly a dyed-in-wool car nut. Surreally mentioned that he'd "just waived good bye" to the GTO on his way out of the garage this am with the LaFerrari, but said he hasn't fully gone through it for a full mechanical refresh until he finishes Monterey week (he's taking a bunch of other cars out there). Said he may not take the GTO to a lot of events and meets, but plans to drive the he'll out of it, and "take it for coffee and to the supermarket," without a hint or sarcasm.

    Self-made innovator. Exactly the kind of guy I'd hope could get a GTO
     
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