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250 LM Picture Thread

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  1. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    No. I did say private collection, not dealer.
    Marcel Massini
     
  2. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Bardinon isnt really south so its a private collection i have never heard of !

    Can you share some more details ? :)
     
  3. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    No, not Bardinon.
    There are several 250 LMs in France and several in the southern part, in addition to dealer Jean Guikas/GTC Sarl. in Marseille.
    Marcel Massini
     
  4. amenasce

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    Several ?

    Guikas has 2 . Bardinon 1 . There are more than 3 LMs then !
    Is it Wangs ? I know he has a SWB Cali somewhere in the south .
     
  5. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    No, not Wang. His SWB California Spider is near St. Tropez and has nothing to do with a 250 LM. Stop guessing please. I will not tell you, the man wishes to remain private and anonymus. Thanks for understanding.
    Marcel Massini
     
  6. mroz

    mroz Formula Junior

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    Marcel,

    Im sure you know the quanity/distribution of LMs by country?
    USA,France,Germany,UK,Japan,Italy, etc?

    What are the numbers?
     
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  7. Birel

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    Hi Marcel,

    Have you ever considered doing an updated reprint? A lot has changed, a lot has happened since your first edition. I bet you'd easily sell another 5,000 copies!!
     
  8. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    12 in USA
    7 in France
    4 in Italy
    3 in Switzerland
    1 in Germany
    2 in Japan
    3 in England

    32 in total

    Marcel Massini
     
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  9. Marcel Massini

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    Hi Andrew
    Yes, I am working on it. Yes, a lot has happened since 1982. Osprey Publishing printed 5'000 copies back then, they are all long sold out and have become rare collectors items. Horton Booksellers in UK sells a copy of my book for GB Pounds £ 280. Original price was GB Pounds £ 14.95. Incredible. However, I wish to state that it is not my goal to sell as many copies as possible. Quality of the information is much more important to me and one can't make any money anyway with a specialist title like this.
    Marcel Massini
     
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  10. Birel

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    #60 Birel, Jul 13, 2006
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    Also in France is a very period looking "recreation" with the Drogo style longnose. Far from looking like a fresh replica this one looks as run down as most of them did by the time they were 5 years old.

    Sorry for posting a replica, but I think its interesting.
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  11. Marcel Massini

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    That's the one using number "6167", ex-Stefano Sebastiani (Rome).
    Marcel Massini
     
  12. mroz

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    7 in France is quite a lot. Seems the 250 LM is favored by the French.
     
  13. Birel

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    Good news Marcel, my old original copy has so many pencilled in notes and extra photos stuck in over many years of observation. Thats a book which will only leave my hands when I pass on ! And do please ask me if you need any help with anything, I'm only too happy to contribute.

    Andrew
     
  14. Marcel Massini

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    Andrew
    Thanks. All I need is more time! Everything else I have.
    Best
    Marcel Massini
     
  15. Martin D

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    only 1 in Germany? I thought there were two (5907 and the one of Ibing)

    Martin
     
  16. Marcel Massini

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    The one ex-Ibing, 6217, ex-Edoardo Lualdi Gabardi, is LOOOOOOONG gone!
    Marcel Massini
     
  17. EricB

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    I hadn't seen this book mentionned in the thread... it's worth having if you can track it down...

    ISBN 3-905268-14-0
    Ferrari 250LM No 6313
    by Doug Nye and Piero Carrieri
    Published by Cavalleria

    54 pages on the history of.
    25 page pictorial on No 6313.
    109 total pages including a listing of all competition results for all 250LM worldwide from 1964 to 1970.


    -e
     
  18. Jeff Kennedy

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    Where is 5909LM located these days? I enjoyed some real good seat time in it long, long ago. In the susequent re-restorations did anybody change the fuel tanks back to natural aluminum from the polished that Griswold did?

    From those with LM driving exerience did you ever suffer upshift mis-shifts? This was an occasional problem with 5909LM.

    Jeff
     
  19. Marcel Massini

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    5909 is owned by Steven Read of San Francisco/CA. It can regularly be seen at Laguna Seca every August.
    Marcel Massini
     
  20. Nembo1777

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    To find rare books such as Marcel's 250LM title, www.abebooks.com is probably the best source. Also place your wish list with the major car book shops in Europe, the US and Australia.
     
  21. schwaggen

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    Great googly-moogly that is a beautiful car. I've never seen an LM with the rear window like that.
     
  22. mroz

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    #73 mroz, Oct 20, 2007
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  23. Motob

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    It's the only LM that was built as a road car from the start. It is also the only LM bodied by Pininfarina, all the others were bodied by Scaglietti.

    It's also the only LM that I drove today, followed by a 250 GTO. It's a tough job, but someone has to do it.
     
  24. John Vardanian

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    Poor thing. I'd hate to be in your shoes.
     

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