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  1. Aardy

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    Excellent joke !
     
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    Thank you!
     
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    #629 bigodino, Dec 28, 2015
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    I have this as 6167. I saw it at the old museum in Mougins, France in 2005 (no longer there).
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    Is this correct?
     
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    I thought the whole of Piper's 250LM was/is fibreglass. Plus Piper's LM has the long nose which was post factory to my understanding.

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  8. Marcel Massini

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    Long nose were built by Piero Drogo anyway. Not factory, not Scaglietti.

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  9. tomgt

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    which 250LM was at FoS?
     
  10. lgs

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    The chassis is one issue. But where is the car today?
     
  11. Marcel Massini

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    6167: South of France.

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    #637 Marcel Massini, Jul 4, 2017
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    Apologies.
    6051 was NOT at Goodwood last weekend.
    Very sorry for having posted an incorrect information.

    The car in question (post #634) uses #5899 although the factory certified 5899 lives in Canada these days.

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  14. tomgt

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    lol
    So #5899.1 :)
    and fakes are welcome at FoS
    Or was 1040 also 1040.1....
     
  15. Marcel Massini

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    It is well known that replicas have appeared at Goodwood.
    This year, a 125/166 recreation, two Lancia D50 recreations, a 246 Dino F1 recreation, two of the 156 sharknose F1 recreations, as well as the factory 125 Sport recreation.

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  16. lgs

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    What chassis is in that car?
     
  17. tazandjan

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    Marcel- How is the updated version of your 250 LM book coming along? I just picked up a copy of the original yesterday for a reasonable price ($250) after foolishly selling mine in the 1990s.

    Still remember when Kirk F White was selling a 250 LM for $9800 in the 70s, but I wanted a Dino 246 or Daytona instead. Not a great choice on my part. The Dino cost me $10,600 and was traded plus $5000 for my old Daytona.
     
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    Was the Kirk White 250 LM 5901? If so, that one went to Bob Bodin. Many more owners since.
     
  19. Marcel Massini

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    Mrs. Irene G. Young of Wilton/CT, sold 5901 in June 1970 to Kirk White who re-sold it 29 June 1970 to William B. Rearden, Jr., of Villanova/PA, who paid US$ 16'500 (Rearden traded in his 330 P Spider chassis #0822 valued at US$ 12'000).

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    I should look and see if I still have that old Kirk F White newsletter from back then.
     
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    #645 lgs, Sep 18, 2017
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    • Can you please tell for those who care what exactly had "been x-rayed, measured and very carefully inspected, even metallurgically tested, also repaired by Ferrari SpA after the modifications" and finally certified in 2005? Most interesting for history would be to learn what chassis actually is in the car after you explained in 1986: "In fact, one could say that LM 5899 is a replica, since there were nearly no original parts left to build the new car. ..." (Sept. 24, 1986, in Cavallino n. 39, http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/vintage-ferrari-market/470656-250-le-mans-5899-a-5.html#post145370583 post 83).
     
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    Anyone know if the interior door panels on the 1965 Le Mans winner are body color, unpainted metal or black?

    -F
     
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    Interior door panels were painted black. In the mid 1980's I was working on a 250 LM project, one of the employees at the Indy museum took and sent 12-14 photos for me. All the photos were taken of the car long before they restored it. Here are 3 pics of the interior showing door panels and seats.They aren't the best photos, but I think you'll find them useful.

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    #650 furmano, Apr 19, 2018
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    Thank you Alebart and Marshall.

    After looking around at the various 250 LM's, I'm surprised how many, including the 1965 Le Mans winner which has been in the possession of the Indy Museum for some time now, have such ratty interiors. I understand #5893 has been restored since these photos but this is not the only 250 LM to have a rough interior.

    It's as if the 250 LM didn't quite catch the "restoration bug", even if many or most of them have been re-built after being crashed.

    Additionally, it appears the 1965 Le Mans winner, #5893 has been restored to at least two different configurations over the last decade or two. I surmise the two different configurations relate to the way it was at Daytona and the way it was at Le Mans.

    As I understand it, at Le Mans, #5893 had "quilted", diamond pattern stitch, black leather seats.

    -F
     

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