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  1. nico308

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    Arnaux Meunier did a book about the 250 LM with a big part with the history of # 5895
    http://www.ambook.fr/
     
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  3. alebart3

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  4. alebart3

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    1966 International trophy Silverstone
     
  5. miurasv

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    Pilot is Bob Bondurant in #8165LM. Photo copyright is T.C. March/Foto Vantage.
     
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  6. Marcel Massini

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    Last LM built.

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  8. miurasv

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    Not seen a 250 LM chassis stamped with "275 LM" with chassis number" before. Only seen "250" with chassis number.
     
  9. renatone

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    Thanks for the tip, nico308.
    Are you sure that the book you mentioned has a color photo or description of what I want to know?
     
  10. nico308

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    no color pictures for Kyalami but I will ask him he have more archive about the LM than of course are published ,he explain that the car was repainted blue for the 1967 season so guessing that it was red at Kyalami .
    There is a site with pictures for the Kyalami races that I found one day with color pictures of the belgian Ferrari's try to find it back .
     
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  12. nico308

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    5895 was red for 1966
     
  13. ARN075

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    Dear Renato,

    I don't have color picture but I think 5895 was red at Kyalami 1966.
    5895 was red in 1966 at Spa in may or at Nürburgring in june or Martini International at Silverstone in July.
    5895 was blue at Daytona in february 1967. Note the body under the headlight bubble was white at this time and later.
    At Kyalami in november 1966, body under the headlight bubble was in the same color of the whole body.

    From Nürburgring 1966 to Kyalami 1966, a small aeroscreen was added just in front of the pilot.
    It was remouved for Daytona 1967.

    So that doesn't prove anything, but the disappearance of the small aeroscreen could/should be made at the time of the new blue paint ? Between Kyalami 1966 and Daytona 1967 ?

    I hope it can help.

    Best regards,
    Arnaud Meunier

    PS : sorry for the copyright of the photos...I found them on internet

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  14. renatone

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    Very useful news! Thanks a lot.
    About the site, I know it and it is very interesting, but the photos of that 250 LM are in B / W.
    However, unfortunately, the site disconnects all the time so it is difficult for me to do research
     
  15. renatone

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    Arnaud, thank you very much!

    I agree with the reasoning about color of the car, starting from the color of the body under the headlight bubble.
    Instead I did not understand what that little gray trapezoid, that appears in all the photos in the top center of the number on the nose, is.
     
  16. ARN075

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    it is a third air intake added during 1966
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  17. ted walker

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    Lower photo.copyright Ferret Fotographics.
     
  18. Manfred Steinert/MPS

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    Image of car with race no. 32:
    Copyright Manfred Steinert/Collezione Mitorosso.com
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  19. Marcel Massini

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    Photo copyrights:
    Always the usual "excuse": "I found them on the internet............."
    Total lack of respect for other people's property. I call this theft.
    How many times have we been thru this here on fchat already?

    Marcel Massini
     
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  20. wbaeumer

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    Marcel, I agree with you totally - but sometimes the copyright-holder(s) is/are not mentioned when you found images on the Internet.
    I found many photos from my archive on the Internet, most of them copied from my books etc.! You can not stop that....
     
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  21. Marcel Massini

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    Walter:
    "Finding" something on the internet doesn't entitle you to automatically "use" it, especially not without prior proper verification and checking of the actual copyright holder. That would require a bit of time and effort and the keyboard warriors and all the kids don't want to do that. They think they can just take it. It is theft and remains theft.
    We have been thru this a hundred times already. YOU, as a pro photographer, know exactly what intellectual property is.

    Marcel Massini
     
  22. Lusso123

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    Photo copyrights: The illegal use/theft of them is one of those never ending big problems, and is the main reason I only post a few things which I am not too concerned about. I will not post the majority of what I have regardless of whether the photos are from my collection, or ones that I have taken over the years.
     
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  23. TTR

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    There seem to be few "keyboard warriors" and "kids" here on FChat who continually exhibit lack of respect for the copyrights of images they "find/see/steal on the i-net".
    Perhaps we all should stop responding to and just ignore any requests they post regarding their stolen images ? I know I often do.
     
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  24. wbaeumer

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    Marcel, agree with you again - but as mentioned before, its sometimes NOT possible to source the copright holder when an image appears on a website.
     
  25. TTR

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    Perhaps the respectful thing would be to not use it as reference, let alone copy & paste it (i.e. repeat the offense) for mere amusement.
     
  26. ARN075

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    Hello,

    So, you are right I put here some photos without copyright...
    My apologies if I offended someone.
    Sometimes you should to use photos to explain things.
    That's what I do !
    The photos used are in small size...
    Everyone will be able to watch them but probably not get commercial use from them.
    Sharing is not the basis of community life?
    I find unfortunate that we can no longer discuss a subject that fascinates us by this kind of debate.
    I am even faced with the problem of copyright (for who don't know, I'm photographer too).

    I whish you the best.

    And if it is necessary to specify it : I never use historical photos without copyright in the books I wrote !

    The photos shown here are just the result of research and serve me (as many of you I suppose) when researching the history of our favorite brand...

    Best regards,
    Arnaud Meunier
     

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