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  1. Argento

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    Does anyone have any information, data or photo's of the following serial numbers....

    4435
    4655
    4845

    All RHD 250 Lusso's, Built in 1963.

    Regards,

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  2. thepinkumbrella

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    Was 4845 the David Clarke car registered 5 RU? was this the car he did some film work with?

    4435 was offered at Auction by sothebys in December 88, the catalogue lists it as having covered 32000 miles, i cant recall if the car sold
     
  3. Argento

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    Another is 04945

    Not sure about 04845 - I'll do some checking ?

    Do you recall colour of 4435 ?

    Thanks Paul

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  4. Mark Shannon

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    Here is what I have in my database

    4435:
    SILVER WAS ORIGINALLY GRIGIO MONTEBALLO/BLACK (VM8500) INTERIOR.
    MARANELLO CONCESSIONAIRES ORDER NO: 68.
    SOLD NEW TO CROSET.
    20 JULY 1963. 1st REGISTERED 5FXR.
    ex RE WRIGHT. REGISTERED YVH970. HE OWNED IT IN 1969.
    ex JOHN COLLINS, TALACREST.
    1988/89 ?? AT SOTHEBYS AUCTION.
    SOLD TO JAPAN.
    FITTED WITH 6 CARBS.
    2004. SOLD BACK TO UK.

    4655:
    IS LHD ALTHOUGH RAAB SHOWS IT AS RHD CONFUSINGLY
    RED - WAS BLACK - WAS SILVER/BLACK INTERIOR
    196? SOLD TO PETER G PALUMBO. KLH24D, LATER REGISTERED LUS50.
    PICTURED IN ONE OR TWO BOOKS.
    199? SOLD AT BROOKS, OLYMPIA.
    ENDED UP WITH FRITZ NEUSER, GERMANY.
    SOLD.
    SOLD TO PRESENT OWNER.

    4845:
    RED/BLACK INTERIOR AND BLACK CARPETS.
    MARANELLO CONCESSIONAIRES ORDER NO: 88
    SOLD NEW TO DAVID CLARKE.
    10 OCTOBER 1963. 1st REGISTERED RU5.
    FEATURED IN ARTICLE IN ROAD & TRACK ABOUT CLARKE'S CARS.
    FEATURED IN ARTICLE IN T&CC ABOUT CLARKE, GRAYPAULS & HIS CARS.
    PICTURED IN GTO OSPREY AUTOHISTORY BY CLARKE.
    FEATURED IN "BERLINETTA" BY PETER GROH.
    199? REPAINTED BY ROB WILSON, COSBY, LEICESTERSHIRE.
    199? SOLD TO PRESENT (SECOND) OWNER.

    Hope this helps.

    Mark Shannon
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  5. Mark Shannon

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    Yes he did do some film work with this car.

    Mark Shannon
     
  6. Mark Shannon

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    Again listed by Raab & Nowak as RHD. Anyone know more.

    Last heard of by me with BRAD HOYT, USA and LHD.


    Mark Shannon
     
  7. Argento

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    So was it RU 5 or 5 RU ?

    Argento
     
  8. Mark Shannon

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    RU5, as per my database information.

    Mark Shannon
     
  9. thepinkumbrella

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    His 250 GTO was 5 RU.

    Sorry
     
  10. thepinkumbrella

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    Mark

    Just to update a little info 4435 auction at Sothebys in London was December 5th 1988.
    Dont know if your that picky about details but if you are hope this helps

    Regards

    Paul
     
  11. Mark Shannon

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    Yes I can be picky and I have now recorded that. Most grateful.

    Mark Shannon
     
  12. enzo360

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  13. MJarrettR

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    Don't know if any of you UK guys can get it, but there was an article in Forza #71, the most recent issue, about Bill Collins' 250GT Lusso s/n 5467GT which he has had since 1971. In there it lists all of the RHD Lussos that were sold new into the UK, and one that went to South Africa. A few little additions on the cars mentioned:

    4435GT: First registered on July 20, 1963 in England, ordered new through Maranello Concessionaire's order #68

    4845GT: First registered on October 10, 1963 in England, ordered new through Maranello Concessionaire's order #88

    4945GT and 4655GT: as mentioned earlier, not originally RHD Lussos

    -Jarrett
     
  14. Birel

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    What about # 4849 on that list? Its shown as a ? mark, and to my knowledge hasn't been seen for maybe 15 years?
     
  15. MJarrettR

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    Ordered new to South Africa. Maybe its still there....

    -Jarrett
     
  16. Argento

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    True was ordered to SA as new, But not a RHD car.

    Argento
     
  17. Birel

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    #17 Birel, Sep 21, 2006
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    4849 has finally seen some daylight and is very much in RHD form. Question is was it a LHD conversion. Apparently when it arrived from Africa in poor condition it was RHD
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  18. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    5031 was advertised in the November 1998 Du Pont Registry magazine.

    The list of autos for sale by the place read for the Lusso:

    "1963 250 GT Lusso. Chassis #5031. Comp. prepared, FIA papers, GTO engine, long and successful history. Major event eligible. $195,000"

    The ad was by "Cars International Associated" at 4 Heybridge House Industrial Estate, Maldon, Essex, CM9 4XL UK. Telephone: 011-44-1621-841881.

    They had a SWB, LWB, Maser 250 F, and F50 in the ad, too. All with serials.

    Here's a pic of 5031 currently: http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3200.asp?id=12160
     
  19. Birel

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    Ferrari have confirmed it was built as a RHD. So that clears that up.
     
  20. PDQ356

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    When I owned Lusso 4945 in 1976 it was red w/ white interior, LHD. I bought it from an estate in Arlington Mass and sold it to a dealer in NY in '78. Smoked a little on startup but ran great, showed 44k miles. Sold it to buy a '58 Speedster which I still have.
     
  21. torquespeak

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    Photo below is not mine, but clearly shows '5 FXR' is the plate on the Matchbox 250 Lusso. Not sure if it is already common knowledge that s/n 4435GT's plate was on this, but there we go.

    -Ed

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  22. Mark Shannon

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    Dear Ed

    That was it's first registration number. See #4 above.

    Mark
     
  23. torquespeak

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    Sorry for any confusion... I realise that '5 FXR' has long been associated with s/n 4435GT. I just wasn't aware if people had bothered to study the Lesney Matchbox car before (I couldn't find any other references to it on here). :)

    Anyone have any idea why that particular Lusso's plate was used on the car? And any idea why the toy car was green? Oh... and any idea why it had a tow ball?!

    -Ed
     
  24. readplays

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    Hi Ed,
    I did a little looking. The answer seems to be- to tow a Honda motorcycle on a Honda logo'd trailer(!).
    Pic courtesy of an eBay ad where someone has this setup listed.
     
  25. John Vardanian

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    This picture gave me such a flashback to my boyhood. I had all three pieces. I remember being devastated when I lost a tire on the Lusso. They were soft rubber and actually slipped on and off the wire wheels.:)

    john
     
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