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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by 275GTBSaran, May 4, 2012.

  1. 275GTBSaran

    275GTBSaran Formula Junior

    Mar 5, 2012
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    #1 275GTBSaran, May 4, 2012
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    I just picked her up. My god she is a dream. It drives even better than I imagined! Here are some pictures and a short video for you to see. Anyway I picked her up and waited for the oil to warm up, then drove her hard, through all gears up to the fourth. When I finally arrived home and tried to reverse, the gearbox blocked. I could not put her into reverse.
    I called a neighbor for help and he told me (he is a trained fighter pilot who understands a lot of engineering) that sometimes when the gearbox heats up I have to wait for the car to cool down before I can put her into reverse. I find that strange.

    After 15 minutes of waiting, the car I assumed was cold, so I push the fuel pump, start the car and tried to reverse but nothing doing! I had to push the car along with the fighter pilot into the box. Why will my reverse gear not work? Any suggestions? Thank you for your help!
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  2. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Oct 23, 2002
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    Jim Glickenhaus
    There are a lot of reasons that R wouldn't work.

    Start with adjusting the linkage.

    Hopefully that's it.

    If you send me your email by PM I'll send you a pdf of the service manual.

    Best
     
  3. malcolmb

    malcolmb Formula Junior
    Rossa Subscribed Owner

    Apr 17, 2002
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    Please don't be offended if you are a long time owner and know these tricks, but- Have you tried putting it in first, letting the clutch out enough to reposition the gears, and then moving to reverse? also remember to depress the lever.
    This is a gorgeous car, DRIVE IT.
    Malcolm
     
  4. 275GTBSaran

    275GTBSaran Formula Junior

    Mar 5, 2012
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    Thank you for your advice! I am a complete beginner so any advice is appreciated. What do you mean 'depress the lever'? The clutch trick the fighter pilot already informed me about....
     
  5. 275GTBSaran

    275GTBSaran Formula Junior

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    Thank you Jim- you already sent me the owners manual which will come in handy. Best Edmond
     
  6. margarita

    margarita Formula 3

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    nice congratulatioms
     
  7. 12659

    12659 Formula Junior

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    Push lever vertically down.
     
  8. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
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    Did reverse work BEFORE
    the test drive ?
     
  9. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Correct. That is the lock out.

    Also put in N with clutch out. Rev a little. Put clutch in engauge
    1 then move back to N push lever down and try to get R.
     
  10. 275GTBSaran

    275GTBSaran Formula Junior

    Mar 5, 2012
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    What do you mean? By lever do you mean the gear shift itself? Vertically down, meaning the movement you make when you switch gears? Or press the top part straight down? Thank you for helping a novice!
     
  11. 275GTBSaran

    275GTBSaran Formula Junior

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    I never test drove the car but had an expert take a look the car for me. I am not sure if he tried reverse, I will find out tomorrow. Thank you for your help, E
     
  12. 275GTBSaran

    275GTBSaran Formula Junior

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    The way you are writing makes me think that this happens sometimes with Old ferrari's?
    I have an DB4 Aston Martin and a 300SL and never had a problem with them at all. Maybe this is part of owning a vintage Ferrari- you actually have to fight and work to get your car to go into Reverse! Makes it more amusing I suppose...( if you have a good sense of humor)
     
  13. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    As I remember it to get past reverse lock out you have to push
    lever towards the ground and while holding that downward force
    into R.
     
  14. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Every one is a bit different. Some older gearboxes are balky.

    The other thing to remember is not to speed shift them. Place
    them in gear and warm them up well. Second gear synchro can
    be an issue.
     
  15. lancia

    lancia Formula Junior

    Jan 18, 2004
    321
    On the underside of the shift gate (the visible plate with the gear lever selection slots) there is a small thickened, projecting metal stop. There is a corresponding projection on the gear lever shaft. When you push down on the gear lever (it's spring-loaded) the projection on the gear lever is now low enough to pass under and clear the metal stop on the underside of the gate, allowing the lever to move into the reverse slot. If the lever is not depressed, the projection on the shaft collides with the stop on the gate, acting as a rudimentary lock out.
     
  16. Cris Bertschi

    Cris Bertschi Formula Junior

    Mar 3, 2005
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    Hi Saran,
    Congratulations!
    Would you share the s/n of your car with us?
    Kind regards.
    Cris.-
     
  17. BigTex

    BigTex Six Time F1 World Champ
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    Dec 6, 2002
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    I think this may be it.

    The feature caught me out, on the first Ferrari drive home.

    The shift selector forks in the gearbox being slightly off might cause it also, but I think pushing down on the knob as you move the lever into the slot will do it!

    Congrats on that fine car!
     
  18. 275GTBSaran

    275GTBSaran Formula Junior

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    If you mean the chassis Nr it is 10943. I bought it from a one of the biggest collectors of Ferrari in the world a man called JP Slavic. Best E
     
  19. 275GTBSaran

    275GTBSaran Formula Junior

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    Can I go down now and try it without the engine being on? I am so curious!
     
  20. 275GTBSaran

    275GTBSaran Formula Junior

    Mar 5, 2012
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    Great. thank you for your help. I might go down and try it now else will wait until tomorrow and go and try and it when I take it for drive. I appreciate your help. Best E
     
  21. migg48

    migg48 Karting

    Jul 7, 2006
    107
    This brings back memories! I owned one in Pozzi Blue (actually, I'm not sure that was the correct name in 1967, but in was navy blue); it was a fabulous car. One of those "what was I thinking?" moments when I think about selling it......You'll get the tranny sorted and have a ball with it...
     
  22. 275GTBSaran

    275GTBSaran Formula Junior

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    #22 275GTBSaran, May 5, 2012
    Last edited: May 5, 2012
    Thank you to all good advice! I managed to figure out the problem - like you all said, the trick was pressing vertically down on the lever. That allowed the R gear to slide in, although not every time did it slide without making that awful noise (letting the owner know he does not know yet how to handle this Vintage Ferrari). But it works!

    I am going to Post my Video now. Enjoy!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8FsRuL0iTU&feature=youtu.be
     
  23. 275GTBSaran

    275GTBSaran Formula Junior

    Mar 5, 2012
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    Le Monde Edmond
    Nice to hear your experience and navy blue is just a gorgeous color! I am going to repaint mine in the original light blue color but will do that in the winter time. For now its red and there are worse colors for Ferrari than red.
     
  24. Tenney

    Tenney F1 Rookie
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    Feb 21, 2001
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    Might try first gear, then reverse to avoid that noise? Sharp car - congrats!
     
  25. lancia

    lancia Formula Junior

    Jan 18, 2004
    321
    If you are routinely getting excessive clash of the synchronizers as the teeth engage, from rest selecting into 1st and/or reverse, suggest that you have the hydraulic clutch system bled and have also the clutch pedal free-play adjusted to be certain the clutch is fully disengaging. If you sense it will not go in without force and crunch, also let the clutch in and out once at idle and try again, as this will spin/re-position internal gearbox shafts. (If not mistaken 4-cam has same hydraulic-activated clutch release fork as 2-cam; master cylinder + slave cylinder.)
     

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