275 gtb suspension/brake rebuild

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Matt:

I realize Patrick Ottis is gone thru Monday this afternoon. You were smart enough, after over a year selecting a local leading professional in the field. Patrick owned a 275GTB/4 for 30 years.

Why would you be asking this question in a forum of thousands? Most with opinions and not experience. Those with experience, probably will not answer. As you have also found out, most leading engine builders do not have computers, either!

Let Patrick direct you!

"OK now, Patrick continue driving this bus, Matt get back in your seat"

 

Matt


My goal to to avoid wrong or inaccurate information getting to you. This way your service professional will not need to spend unnecessary time overcoming new obsticles from potential data exchanges with inexperienced Chatters.


Now please sit down, before you get in trouble, and leave the driving to the P Ottis Bus Company.

 

Here is another shot of a 275 brake job. Good luck with your job.

kcv
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What 275 has ventelated brakes, cast suspension arms, ATE brakes, 2 shocks, CV joints and 42 style spinners ?????? Please enlighten. Like I was saying.....

 

You might find some useful material here:
http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43221
Let me know if you need hi-res copies.

Cheers.

 

Sorry about the mislabled image. I believe that is a reworked suspension on an Italia. I apologize for trying to help.

regards

ken

 

Original finishes as follows:
All suspension bolts: black oxide
All nylon insert nuts: clear cadmium with yellow nylon insert
Castle nuts, black oxide
Shock absorber mounting bolts: black oxide
Shock absorber: Koni orange
Spring retainers: zinc plate
Springs: gloss black paint, usually hand brush marked with white and/or yellow paint on part of one coil about ¼ the way down – mark may have something to do with spring rate? Use flex additive in paint.
Brake disc mounting bolts and nuts: black oxide
Brake disc centers: unfinished cast iron, but use cast iron color high heat paint to protect
Splined hubs: black oxide
Sway bars: semi-gloss black paint
Cast pivot arms for sway bar, rear: dull nickel plate (sulphamate nickel?)
Vertical rear sway bar links: semi-gloss black paint
Front sway bar links, cast,: dull nickel plate
Front and rear uprights: semi-gloss black, but machined surfaces are not painted (coat clear to protect where exposed)
Suspension A-arms: semi-gloss black paint
Suspension bushing cups: zinc plate (silver not gold)
Suspension arm mounting forks: black oxide
Pitman arm: cast, dull nickel plate
Steering arms, nickel plate over unpolished casting – caution – bake to avoid hydrogen emrittlement after plating
Brake calipers: saddles, wheel cylinders, wheel cylinder bolts, pad retainers, hardware: cadmium plate (silver, not gold)
Wheel cylinder bolt lock washers: black oxide
Caliper mounting bolts to upright: black oxide
Hand brake calipers: cadmium plate (silver not gold)
Brake hose mounting nuts: clear cadmium
Brake line nipples and fittings: clear cadmium

 

Great stuff!! I love these old Ferrari resto threads! Even though i work on them daily, I really don't get to see very many real vintage Ferrari's too often. Please keep the pics comming!

 

Lancia: You're genious! Where did you get that information?

 

Helped work on unrestored one many moons ago, helped take apart, paid attention.

 

I guess Lancia's response will only cause "additional unnecessary time overcoming new obsticles from potential data exchanges with inexperienced Chatters."

He must represent someone with "opinions and not experience." However, since he does have experience, he won't bother to answer. : )

warm regards

kcv

 

I would love to hear the estimate from the professional, I could use a good laugh. The Guy that charges you all the money usually hires minimum wage labor to do all of the dirty work. It reminds me of the Sheehan article about how much it costs to paint a ferrari. The guy that makes most of the money is the guy that rounds up the clients, not the guy doing the work. They are catering to an affluent market that is ignorant of the actual task at hand. I say do the work yourself, there are probable lots of guys in you area that would help. There is no need to pay someone $100/hr for disassembly and cleaning. The worst part is that they will probably use a rattlecan to refinish the parts. I am sure that you have been told already how much it will ruin the value of your car if you do it yourself. You will probably do a better job since it is for yourself anyway. You won't believe how easy and inexpensive the job will be. If you need parts, get them from Ferrari UK. Any competent mechanic can handle the job. You will even save enough to buy a nice compressor, parts washer, and bead blaster. Good luck! How much was that estimate?

 

If you enjoyed that one, you should read his "How much to restore a Ferrari" in this month's SCM!

T308

 

It's funny how the price of of a Ferrari restoration rises with the value of the car even though the amount of work required remains the same. The "people who know that will probably not answer" are the guys trying to protect their standard of living. They don't want you to know their secrets like how your suspension was painted with Rustoleum to match the crappy quality of the rest of the chassis. Open the phone book and find a plater in your area. He knows more about the correct finish of those parts than a Ferrari mechanic. Bring him a sample of each part. This job is a simple clean and replate. Instead of rubberized undercoating in the wheel wells, use truck bead liner coating in a spray can. Holds up better, and never gets tacky. It's way more correct than using an aftermarket crank and Carrillo rods in a "priceless" restoration. It's amazing that you would be berated for an incorrect finish on your suspension while the "experts" all say that it is OK to use modern base/clear paint because it looks better. These guys are just trying to make a living on your income! If you want true Ferrari quality in you restoration, paint it with a brush. Enzo didn't care about anything except the engine. Do it so that you are happy with it. If you do it to correct standards, and you drive it on a regular basis, it will once again look like crap(original). All these guys that are telling you to get it done properly will be the one's who offer you half of retail when you sell the car.

 

The carbs look beautiful! Thanks for sharing.

ken