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275GTB/4 Brake Question...

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by ISBC90T, Oct 17, 2008.

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  1. ISBC90T

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    Gentlemen, what paint color would the brake calipers be from the factory on a 1967 275 GTB/4 cam??

    I was told here earlier that they should be silver cadmium plated. (Thank you to those who responded!!!)

    The wheels are off now and the brake piston housings are "Dunlop" brand. The fronts are silver cadmium, but the rear housings are gold colored. I'm standing here scratching the bald spot on the back of my head wondering what to do next.

    Any chance these mismatched colors are factory correct?

    Or should they be silver front and rear, or gold front and rear???

    The car has a Bonaldi master cylinder if that makes any difference.

    Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.
     
  2. Fpayntr

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  3. 2NA

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    Similar to a Jag Etype. :D
     
  4. John Vardanian

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    While we are in these parts, what is the correct finish for the hubs. Thanks.

    john
     
  5. buurman

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    Ferrari never painted the LOBO bolts this can only a 98 point car
    You as Americans must have severe troubles HAHA
    the calipters and the brakesbrackets were never painted so cheaply with an brush

    ciao
    Cornelis

    plaese drive this cars
     
  6. buurman

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    Forgot to say on the back side you can see the electric Fispapump tubing thats correct ,no paint pure non oxidation material !

    not painted like the tubing from caliptor to calipter

    97 points i think
    Good for the owner only this small part of the car is visible. Otherwise must probebly give back his price
    well those old judges must have trouble to come up ,if they go on there knees

    Cornelis
     
  7. Vintage V12

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    Calipers= Silver Cad
    Hubs= Zinc Phosphate

    That blue 4 cam restored by Perfect Reflections/ Patrick Ottis. Best in the Biz.
     
  8. Fpayntr

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    That is clear cad Not silver paint and the caliper bolts came from dunlop ALSO clear cad
     
  9. Fpayntr

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    but didn't you see the brushmarks on the calipers HAHAHA
     
  10. Fpayntr

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    The tubing between the calipers also cad as original Maybe you could share a picture of your car??
     
  11. buurman

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    put on you're glasses.
    even the bleeding screw is painted
    well WHO is perfect.
    a lot of owner are in a hurry so its very fast and save time to simply overspray those thing
    but for purist a nightmare,
    for me is overdone.
    Well the sun is always schining in carlifornia isn,t it
    silver cad is correct but has an other kind of shining
    ciao
    cornelis
     
  12. Fpayntr

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    zinc phosphate, Industrial Plating in San Carlos does a great job
     
  13. Fpayntr

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    THAT IS CAD ! I know because I restored that car It's a little bit bright at first but it oxidizes quickly But again I'm sure your car is much better
    ciao
     
  14. buurman

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    Dontbe upset Sir i am not at all interested in 100% concours cars, i HATE them no admosfere .PATINA is the real word
    i know these details because i DRIVE those cars since my student time about 20 years
    i have those parts unrestored in mine spare stock these we never put on a car
    i will try to send tommorrow, if i manage , a few fotos of these untreated unrestaurated parts
    never to old to learn
    ciao
    Cornelis
     
  15. Vintage V12

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    Cornelis: Someone asked a simple question about calipers. Another person ( a professional restorer),took the time to post photos of what a proper restoration should look like. Why would you attack him? You do not seem to be interested in restoration anyway. Your post offers nothing positive to the forum. Posts like yours are what keep quality people from contributing. Just so you know, this blue car in the photos was restored by the most respected people in the vintage Ferrari world. The car is correct in every way.
     
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    #16 buurman, Oct 18, 2008
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    Trying to send some foto for Mr Ottis. the back side silverplated cat 1,75 .
    but in the front a kind of shining messing 2,25 difficult to see on the iphotos
    hope This helps look at the bleeding screws a kind of bordeaux .these parts are about 15 years in my stock,
    i use daily my drummbrakes
    tubing ligh oxidation witch is normal after those years little bit of pitting normal steel see magneto hanging but NO cad
    tomorrow fotos of the org bolts on 250gt a disc brake car .i must take of a wheel off and make them clean with high pessure to schow something
    ciao
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  17. buurman

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    Well i have noting agains this Question, but my stomach acid is allway come high when i see those overrestaurated cars.
    the ex- car 250 gto of Pilkinton was sold and compleetly over restaurated in ENGLAND not in the US i did love this USED car
    So there are also europeen persons IMO without taste or culture.
    well this is my porsenal opinion .
    there are coming times that the car with great patina will reach the highest prices
    but there are not many left THATS the point.
    CIAO
    Cornelis
     
  18. tomgt

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  19. ISBC90T

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    Fpayntr, (sorry about the troll)

    Thank You very much for taking time to post pictures of your beautiful car. They were extremely helpful to me today. I printed them to keep for future reference. If you could, I would be very appreciative to see other pictures of your Ferrari, both before and after restoration. Very fascinating.

    Fpayntr, Thanks again for your much needed and much appreciated help. There are some terrific people on here.
     
  20. Fpayntr

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    your welcome I'll post some pictures for you
     
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  22. prance

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    I'm not sure I'm getting the point here. The calipers are obviously not painted, note the black bolt holding the pads. Is it possible that silver Cad as done in California is somewhat brighter and shinier than old, shelf worn cad from GB? I don't see any paint on the calipers or anywhere else.
    Morris
     
  23. Fpayntr

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    Thanks Morris, I guess he was the one who should be wearing glasses
     
  24. John Vardanian

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    Thanks. The eight nuts holing the hub... are these also zinc phosphate or are they black oxide? I am currently dealing with the suspension rebuild and do appreciate this thread.

    john
     
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    Black Oxide
     

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