275GTB - what does it really cost?

Price without data on condition means very little. To semi restore one of these is 100K easy. To do a 100 point restoration is 200K+ . There is a big difference between short nosed cars, long nosed cars, torque tube cars, 3 carb/6 carb, 2 cam/4 cam/ alloy/steel, outside filler, etc, etc.

 

Jim -
Can you explain specifically difference between short nose / long nose and 2 cam / 4 cam? (Both in terms of why prices for the latter are much more than the former - is it rarity or are they better cars? - and in terms of power and how they drive)

I like the LOOK of the short nose better, and they are the cheapest of the lot! My favorite shortnose ever, 07249, attached.

 

In europe 1966 is the cut off for some vintage events so this effects pricing but basically:
Early cars were short nose.
Short nose cars weren't too stable at high speed so they went to long nose.
Torque tube came next conecting engine and transaxle. Driveshaft runs through torque tube. This helped a lot.
6 carb cars made more power than 3 carbs.
alloy is lighter.
outside filler cap is cool.
4 cam's came in 67 and were the most powerfull.
These are great gt cars. I drove mine 65K miles (long nose, alloy 6carb, torque tube, ex hillclimb car).
They are heavy clutch, steering etc. Defrosters/wipers poor. Not bad in snow with proper tires.

 

And don't forget the "275 Factory Tour" this year! Hurry!!!!!

I guess conventional wisdom is these are the next run up in value once all the 250s are in collections or something.

Still, IMO on of the most beautiful of the road cars.

 

Zack, a buddy of mine has owned 2 275s at different times. One was an outside filer cap and all that. He loved the cars, but gave this advice... after you buy one, replace every rubber piece that you can find. Both of his cars caught fire. Once while going over the Geo Wash bridge without an extinguisher! Always keep in mind that these cars are almost 40 years old.

Take care, Dale

 

Dale - someday I hope to be able to take that advice.
Best,
Zach

 

You said it. As are GTO style vents.

 

What eactly does the torque tube do, and what advantge does a torque tube car over a non-torque tube car. Also, why are cars with torque tubes more money.

Ken

 

It keeps the driveshaft more aligned and less subject to vibration which in the cars without it sometimes became severe.

 

The TQ tube couples the TQ from the differential directly to the engine so that the chassis does not have to take these loads.

Porsche 924, 944, C5 corvette, and may other modern high performance front engined cars use TQ tubes.

 

Any Italian car should be fitted with a extinguisher. A mate of mine lost his Lancia Beta because of a fire and it was way younger than 40 years old.

It is cheap insurance ... remember cars are just machines, but in this case they carry a fuel that likes to burn!

Pete

 

I carry TWO of them, and have replaced all fuel and evap system lines with Goodyear products!

Now back to the cool thread. Sheehan has a nice yellow/black one!

Don't know if it's a torque tube, though.

 

Is think this no bumper 275 is the nicest one I have ever seen. Does anyone know it S/N?
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I not sure I understand your explanation. The engine remains connected to the chassis. How am I wrong about the TT keeping the drive shaft aligned esp. as I believe it runs through an extra bearing in the TT 275's?

 

That's #6459, a dutch car.

 

napolis, help me out here if you can. i understand the logic of a short nose coming first and then being replaced with long nose configuration for stability. however at the classic car collection website they have a long nose from 1961, and then a short nose from 1965. how does this happen? did they continue to make short nosed cars even after they figured out that longer noses were more stable?

 

As the first year for 275's was 65 I doubt they have a 61 275. I suspect it's a typo.

 

Hello Zach,

seems like we both have been at the same time in Schwetzingen, Germany?
Same 275, same angel just 10 minutes later (see the peoples in the background). I have shot this pic 2003.
And here is another one from 2002 in Schwetzingen

 

Thanks, Boudewijn.

 

Argh! Lucky you! Unfortunately, not my photo... What a color, eh?

 

is this one a short or longnosed 1966 275? hehehe
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It seems to be a very very short nose (about half inch).
Is it a BBurago long nose model?

 

Yeah, what's a good inexpensive model? I've been looking at ERTL (?)