288 GTO, F40, F50 or Enzo?

ahh, that explains why you emailed everyday begging me to be your passenger in Alice.

Seriously, its not short for anything - but its pronounced "y-a-r-n". Its not the name i would have picked for myself (too much explaining, like this) but what can you do....

 

Imagine how quick they would be if allowed decent rubber?

 

Yeah... about the same weight as an F50!

 

But yeah... V8's are 5h1t boxes.

Live axle, push rods and rocker arms, one cam shaft, ........

 

Hi FerrariFixer, just out of curiousity, the Lark F1 is a race car, if McLaren still havn't converted into a road car, then the car can only be used on track is that right? i doult that thing can ever be driven on road..

the orange F1 ch # GTR16 is also going to be in Melbourne too for race purpose import right?

 

Sure has. Rear wheels and some body work appeared to be removed. Looked great (although I was some distance away from it).

 

Yes Kelsa...

The Lark is pure Race car, and the other GTR on the way is GTR with road rego in UK, and just as roadable, or more so, than any Ferrari supercar (thread title)... and significantly faster..

 

any issues with compliancing the road GTR?

after all, i don't think the 15 year old scheme would apply, so either a personal import or a dealer import with a huge compliancing hassel.

hate to rebuild my (i wish) clutch every 6,000 kms also tho...

 

V8 supercars is just a huge ad for our great nation's V8 industry. if you complain about V8 supercars, what about the supered up monaros that they raced and won in Bathust 24? the closest thing it has to a normal monaro is proboblly the door skin, 99% of the car is changed, yet they still say a monaro kicked everyone else's ass, that's just wrong!

 

they were going to produce a road version of that car - the HRT 427 but it never happened.

 

yes dingo the HRT427 was a good idea i thin, at least a real "cool" australian made sports car.

but i personally think that the HRT427 was just a "thing" they used so the "monaro 427" can race under the regulation, they knew from day one that the car will cost big bucks to build (400K or something like that), and they won't get the number of buyers at that price. yet they promised buyers 220ish thousand dolloars, first they said only 50 will be released, then 80 more so people ordered, even paid deposite. then they cutted the project, and i quote "we did our numbers, and they just didn't add up".

a promise unfufilled, that's not fair for those people paid deposites and praying night and day for the car. and not fair for the Ferraris, Lambos and other cars raced with it, they didn't say the car was a HRT427, they said it was a monaro 427, some time short, just monaro. its just wrong!

 

I actually agree with a lot of this and I'm sure FF does too as we bagged "the Mongrel" big time on procar because it was just an advertising tool for GM to parade this mongrel of a car that was a V8 Supercar on steroids!!

The bloody thing was only using half the revs during the 24 hr races and was destroying purpose built Porkers, Moslers and the 360ch didn't have a chance.

To top it all off the bogans were lapping this charade up big time and started comparing their HQ Monaros to it saying they would clean up 3x8 Ferraris for breakfast...ffs what a crock of ****

I know of several people in the Ferrari club that put a deposit on the car when it was on display at the motorshows at $215k with no a/c, door lining, etc and were very pissed off when they were cancelled.

The HRT427 was NO MONARO you bogans !!!!! it was a purpose built for one race out and out mongrel bred monster driven by some of the best supercar drivers of the day and was so understressed it could have run for a month, stopped for a few days and still have won.

The most disgusting, cynical advertising display you are ever likely to see

Pheww, it's almost like the old days in Procar

 

stop it. I'm still paying the therapist............

 

My throughts exactly!!

I was really excited about the 24hr race, Moslers, 360s which was running really well in the series, Lambos, and when the race finished, i remember the team owner Garry i think his name was, said that "monaros are just great cars, i suggest everyone go out there and buy one", i was like "yeah, if only they could!"

was kinda glad that its all history tho...

 

i was quite looking forward to a nice battle between the Lambos and the 360s

 

Ferrarifixer, why do you think remapping won't do much to Motronic 2.7? Anyway, do you think it is neccessary to remap the ecu to take full advantage of freer flow exhaust setup like tubi?

 

Because Motronic2.7 cars are not too concerned with polution and emissions compared to more modern systems, and when you search around all the different tuners, none claim big things for 2.7, as it's one of the better systems with regard to power and drivability.

It DOES help a bit, but with 2 ECU's in 2.7 cars, the up grade costs more than it's worth IMO.

See www.wetterauer.de

I trust their work having used it on 360C, and they claim very little (15BHP?)for F50.

 

people claiming big HP from chips are, well, a bit dickie really.

Upgraded chips can do two things:
-increase rpm limit to reduce gearchanges at a given track
-improve driveability on partial throttle settings (and 'punch when hit) however, that is a very very subjective measurement.

They do not increase hp very much (if at all) and if you are fitting them, dyno before and after so you can get you $$$ back.


Spend the money at driver training

 

On some cars they do work well. Many systems are designed to run to a knock sensor with regard to timing, but there is also a maximum timing point achieved.

When writing these programs, manufacturers need to assume that poor quality fuel could be used, and when re-mapping tuners can assume that better fuel is being used... user assumes the risk.

So, some cars respond well to re-mapping, as timing and mixtures can be optimised over and above manufacturers "safe" settings.

The F50 isn't one of them.

Electronically controlled turbo cars respond the best... as the boost can simply be cranked up yielding BIG gains at user risk.

The 360 respond quite well too, with gains across the rpm range, and a little more rpm which helps at some tracks with fewer gear shifts required... which are painfully slow with F1 system, and in truth is where a large chunk of lap time reduction comes from with ECU upgrades.

But yeah.... ECU upgrades are generally hard to justify unless really chasing tenths in your driving

 

I should've clarified I was talking about M2.7... and personal experience

 

Thanks for the input. One more question. As far as I know, by changing to high-flow exhaust system, backpressure will be reduced, resulting in more air flowing into the engine. I was wondering if the stock ECU will adjust the air/fuel mixture accordingly so as to achieve better engine performance. (If not, hence the need to remap the ecu to do so)????? Finally, I have read many different opinions about backpressure=low-end torque. Anyone wants to share their experience/opinion.

 

my ignoramus level of tech knowledge would concur that going too large an exhaust will be detrimental to response down low, you lose a lot of the scavenging effect which helps empty the spent charge from the cylinder and with enough overlap, suck in the new charge.

fatter pipes are good for forced induction and >100% volumetric efficiency engines where it just needs to get out as fast as possible, otherwise the extractors should be designed with the phases of the engine in mind to keep the airflow as smooth and efficient as possible.