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296 Values and Used Market

Discussion in '296' started by Mrwatchdawg, Aug 31, 2023.

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  1. Twosherpaz

    Twosherpaz Formula Junior

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  2. Ivan Drago

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    Love it! Very awesome garage. Thank you for sharing those amazing photos with us. Have you ever heard of the game FMK? If not, don't askjeeves (someone with your high school graduation year will know) this in public.

    Once you familiarize yourself with the game, can you do us all a service and give us an FMK of your garage (doesn't have to be current, just any of the cars you've ever owned).
     
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  3. Gh21631

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  4. ryalex

    ryalex Two Time F1 World Champ
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    My problem with livery numbers is that my lucky number is Four Billion.
     
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  5. Face76

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    Mine is pi.
     
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  6. ryalex

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  7. KL runner

    KL runner Formula Junior

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    I just flicked through the 296 thread and this market values thread has the most pages , and probably the least accuracy !

    Ah off to polish up the crystal ball or perhaps ask Santa for a better more accurate one for the thread and all our resident experts .

    Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas
     
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  8. wthensler

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    Beautiful car, not a track machine IMO. Your other two, OTOH……..
     
  9. Ivan Drago

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    Set the lap record at Maranello, no?

    it’s more capable car on the track than our skills I’m sure
     
  10. wthensler

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    #2260 wthensler, Dec 21, 2024
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    Most of these cars are far more capable than us as drivers.

    My opinion only, but only a real pro could squeeze a bit more with a car like this, and it would be marginal on most tracks.

    The scuttle shake in a convertible with a non-CF chassis would limit any car’s track performance (my experience with a 458 spider).

    I never understood the Aperta for that reason.

    Which reminds me, @Twosherpaz had once mentioned some jiggle in the 296 rear under straight line braking, I’m wondering if it’s due to a slight rear weight bias because of the batteries.

    Dunno, he’s got some cool track cars though. I content myself with more traditional offerings (992 Cup and 458 Challenge),,but I’m still a happy boy.
     
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  11. Ivan Drago

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    oh yeah I’m not a spider fan at all but that’s just because of the looks and I think convertibles are for women but I also appreciate everyone’s own personal choice
     
  12. wthensler

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    I like them, great in FL this time of year, just not for the track.
     
  13. Ivan Drago

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    Fair enough. I live in Wisconsin, so about 4 and a half days a year to drop the top like Fat Pat.
     
  14. x z8

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    I said something like this on the SF90 resale value thread. Need you to post there. LOL
     
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  15. rsguy

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    Will take a look.. I can only imagine how sore some would be over there as well.
    As a general rule, owners who can genuinely afford the significant depreciation couldn't be bothered bullying or attacking other members just for offering realistic opinions on the topic in contrary to their (delusional) own.
    Obviously, being constantly reminded of what lays in store is keeping these few big noters up at night, so they go to all lengths to shut down reality and beat on anyone who they see as reminding them of their inevitable Waterloo. Typical.
     
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  16. REALZEUS

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    Rear weight bias is good for braking stability, as well as acceleration. All Ferraris have more than 50% of their weight on the rear axle.
     
  17. wthensler

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    The Cup (rear bias) is more squirrelly under straight line braking than the Challenge (none whatsoever).

    Cup lays down power better, no question, I’m sure it’s a combo of factors, rear bias being one.
     
  18. REALZEUS

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    Forward weight transfer under braking makes the rear end lighter, thus more squirmy. Having a heavier rear end to begin with helps with rear-end stability. Everything else is a matter of set-up.
     
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  19. wthensler

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    Cup has bias adjustment. Ferrari doesn’t. But what you’ve said sounds right.
     
  20. Caeruleus11

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    The 296 has a little more rear weight bias than the F8. But shorter wheelbase, and also better braking efficiency.

    The spiders from the 458 Speciale Aperta onward are stiffer than the 458 Spider and earlier. Even carbon tub cars suffer some stiffness. The bottom line is for heavy track driving you will want a real track car. A street car can be fun to take for a few laps and explore what it's about.

    I think the market will slowly sort out these cars, it will be slower and probably not as joyful as many of us would like. Thats how it goes.
     
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  21. Ivan Drago

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    Everyone on the forums discusses the cars like they are trail braking these every intersection.

    “Won’t buy the f8 spider, too much scuttle shake”
     
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  22. Caeruleus11

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    Doesnt everyone? :p
     
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  23. Ivan Drago

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    Only when Hector and I take out our Honda’s running spoon engines
     
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  24. vivg91

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    I will say - the chassis flex on 458 Spider was legitimately annoying. Having the interior and top rattle like a 25 year old SLK every time you hit a bump (essentially every block in SF) was just a sub-optimal experience.

    Didn't impact any of the more spirited driving at my very human skill levels, but man did it grate in day to day use.
     
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  25. Caeruleus11

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    They beefed things up for the 458 Speciale A, and that carried into the next generation 488/ F8 cars. SF90/ 296 is probably stiffer still. I honestly cannot detect any flex over the crummy roads in my area in the spider model of either car. They are really really good.
     

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