296 VS

More details on this in case people are curious. Looks like mostly EU affected.

"DMSN - The Driver's Monitoring System is a safety feature that monitors the driver's attention while driving. Using a camera mounted on the steering column, the system can detect signs of fatigue, distraction, or other behaviors that could compromise safety. If the system detects that the driver is showing signs of tiredness or inattention, it emits an audio or visual warning to remind them to take a break. This system is mandatory in certain markets, but where it is not, the customer can choose to remove it.

Only available in: AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND, RUSSIA, USA, CANADA, BRAZIL, COLOMBIA, PANAMA, MEXICO, VENEZUELA, CHILE, SOUTH KOREA, U.A.E., SAUDI ARABIA, EGYPT, QATAR, BAHRAIN, OMAN, KUWAIT, JAPAN, CHINA"​

 

I bet it ultimately came down to some marketing people and the bean counters telling the vehicle dynamics team they can't ship a car without a lift option available, and the engineering team said, well ****, you chumps can deal with the confusion then.

Correct. Lift = Magneride. Standard = No Lift = Multimatic

I'm curious about this one too. Wondering if it has more to do with the press car being set unrealistically low vs. the real street car they'll sell.

 

Went to P dealer today - beg for GT2RS 900hp track beast have 3RS and RSR modified
VS downforce 435kg - GT3RS 860kg equal to XX
Wish Ferrari added a wing for VS coupe -

 

15 years ago, I thought Porsches had great steering feel. I owned a couple, mainly for this reason.

Then they switched to electric steering, and I thought the feel was awful. Not just worse - straight up bad.

I don't think I've driven any Porsches since. Have they figured it out again? Or is this why it's hard to discern...because it isn't what it used to be.

 

991+ seems to me to be more precise but less subtlety and less linear load-up or road feel, but it is simulating it somehow and at least on non-AF 296, feels like the front tires are at least connected to the steering wheel on 2RS/3RS/4RS. Not as good as Evora/Emira or some McLarens.

On the 296 I own and the few I've driven I get just about nada from the wheel, only chassis.

 

Will they give you one? I messaged my dealer for one few days ago and and he still hasn't replied, the arrogance on some of these people LOL

The GT3RS is fantastic but it's few hundred HP short, you come on the straight and you get blown away, yes it sticks the corners but others make it up in straight line if they outpower you, to me it's a fun street and track day car but if you race against others it can get frustrating when you get outpowered. The 4RS is very nice but quite unnecessarily and annoyingly loud at full revs and it's not necessarily a pleasant sound, quite ear piercing, it gets tiring after a while, I was thinking to let it go but I can't be bothered dealing with it, I just stored it away for now.

 

To me the best was the original GT4, I think it was better than the 4RS, the 992 3RS is on par with the GT4 or in some situations better but my favorite is the STO.

The 296 is very light and direct and as a DD I love that, overall IMO you can not get any better than 296 in that bracket, it's pretty much everything you'd need from a car the SF90 brings that to the next level.

 

Strangely, it does not seem the European Union gets this so far - in spite of the EU being famous for having ridiculous regulations...

 

Funny as my dealer and I have been texting but he's very slow on response - so I went there yesterday to drop off RSR for work - gets everyone's attention.
Depending how many they receive, only bought one Porsche added Manthey kit which helps Ruby Star. Problem is they like to get that back for GT2RS msrp for msrp Manager suggested Cayenne turbo and pulled it up wink wink and offered me 90k back of msrp on 296gts - will go back today and grab it.
GT2RS GT3RS RSR would be ideal, it's going to cost but love those wings and ducktails.

 

I think Ferrari would tell you regarding steering feel is you get feedback from the whole car, including the steering wheel. I can tell what the car, and yes, even the front tires, are doing, in general, but it is so rapid that its hard to focus on the finest of details.

 

Dude, you still have a problem, you see me everywhere, even when I'm not writing anything. I'm going to end up believing that you have a giant poster with my username on it in your office and lots of dart pins on it. There's something you haven't understood because you always think in terms of possession vs passion and the representation we have of the latter. Even if you offer me a 296 Speciale, I would sell it in 15 minutes, I don't like what is artificial, so hybrid. This is a viewpoint based on my personal experience, and everyone has the right to have their own. You should respect that.
Now if you offer me a F12 tdf, I promise you that this one I will keep for my entire life.

 

Fair and I do respect that - it's the one who post negative that do not have personal experience.
So tell the personal driving experience you have on the VS - will wait patiently.

 

I have had the chance to drive all the road models of Ferrari from the BB512 to today, with the exception of the 288, Lusso, and Portofino. The 296 Speciale is not a world apart from the 296 GTB... and as I told you, even if it were the best car ever produced by Ferrari, I'm not interested in hybrid cars. That's why I am carefully keeping my F12 while waiting to catch one of the last 12C produced maybe...

 

Funny, that was the last Porsche I drove. Seemed great on paper, so I was planning to buy one. But when I drove it, I didn't like it. I found the steering completely numb, and you had to choose between a spongy throttle (no sport mode) or auto-blip (in sport mode). Which for me took all the fun out of driving a manual.

I understand they fixed the latter problem, so you can have it in sport without the auto-blip. Not sure if the steering has improved. I should probably give it another try.

 

There is a track version arriving for Piloti customers only.

 

Good for them then.
With the Pista the Piloti was just a different livery, with increased exclusivity and price.

 

Yes and this time it's more than just livery. I suspect it gains the Mugello they trademarked (and makes the reuse of Speciale make a bit more sense)

 

We’re in diminishing returns. 296 is pretty powerful. Can’t imagine the Speciale is that much different but certainly should be better. I’ll tell you that the 765 drives noticeably more intensely than the 296. Some of that should be present in the Speciale. But you’d know more than I.

 

Just back from our dealer, working on the specs for our Speciale. (I will post images etc soon). Be mindful of the pre-configured (required) options that are automatically added. Example, with all but a few of the Alcantara options the seats were automatically changed to Daytonas. When you are choosing paints, they decide what stripe options and colors. Go slow, have fun and enjoy the process.

What was interesting is that it does appear much of the CF stuff IS included. We started with a base build, not the pre-configured builds. When we got to the exterior (and interior) CF options almost all of the boxes were pre-checked. Our rep assumed that meant the pre-checked CF was part of the base car and not considered an option. Time will tell if this is correct once pricing is released.

 

the boxes were checked because they expect everyone will order not because it is free of charge. does anyone seriously think that CF on a speciale will be no charge? I certainly do not.

 

The CF options on the car will be over $100k. Crazy stuff. I don’t think many are getting out for under $650k.

 

except...lots of CF was included on our Pista. Almost all of it, matter of fact. This is the 6th new Ferrari was have specced and when the box was pre-checked (using a non-preconfigured car as the starting point) that meant the pre-checked item was included.

296S MSRP in Euros is low $400s. What would be interesting is knowing what is included. It could be that the MSRP in the EU is LESS than the US because the car has less included CF. In other words, our cars may have more included stuff at a higher base price.

 

Could be a Euro/US difference. I have seen Pista Spiders in the US with almost no CF. Can't imagine they would go back to plastic if it was included.

 

On our US 2019 Pista the only optional CF were the sills....

....I have never seen a Pista Aperta with no exterior CF. (Might look cool vs how ott most of those are)

 

I haven't

was there any mention of what happens if tariffs move to extreme levels or remain at 50%?