Agree but things have changed. Factory and Dealers are now massive and local owners who we knew have mostly sold out. Fewer local service shops - they don't have computers needed to even think about touching modern. Exotic brands know by eliminating competition their cars / owners will return - there is more thought than performance to retain customers / cars. My wallet is far from my heart - people vote and spend money when choosing one or the other. Prefer my heart when it comes to cars - money will never make one happy. too deep but it's why I love all cars that have intense ./ extreme engineering based on racing and rich history,
I understand your point of view, and respectfully disagree. The SP3 costs £2m+ because it is a special line (Icona) built on the basis of a hypercar (LaF Aperta), with a carbon fibre and kevlar construction. Ferrari could have a "normal range" mid-mounted V12, with an aluminium body. It would coexist with the SP3 in the same way that the F512 M coexisted with the F50. It is worth remembering that Ferrari offered rear-mounted V12s in its regular line-up for almost 25 years, starting with the 365 BB in 1973, up to the last F512 M built in 1997. And the "lustre and brand value" were very high, regardless of the price of the V12 Lamborghini.
EVO most likely, during Free Practice 2 at Le Mans last night one of the commentators mentioned the 296 EVO is coming soon just weeks away from now.
I'm nodding my head with you, but, I have to also note, in the alternative universe, Ferrari is the cash cow inside Stellantis.... while a step or two removed from direct pressure from the stock market, that pressure would still be there.
I think you have to look at this as the 4 seater, which was always a model in the line up, and a model that was very near and dear to Mr. Enzo Ferrari. I think if they made a 4 seat high riding vehicle (trying hard to not utter the abbreviation which must never be said )... and it was not a V12, then it would be more like everyone else's. The V12 is really the differentiator. Whereas, with mid engine sports cars, Ferrari has a glorious history of mid engine V8s, and now V6s. As to flooding the market, I wonder how many Purosangue have been made/ will be made/ and how that compares to FF/ Lusso models. I get the sense it's not much different, but, maybe I am simply not seeing it all. It doesnt look flooded to me though.
I don't have an issue with putting a V12 in a 2+2. But to me, the Puro marks the start of a new lineage, not a continuation of that grand old tradition. It's clearly been a lucrative pivot, but not one I personally support. (Not that this should matter a lick to anyone.)
Yes at least 80% they desire association. Forum guys - though I complain are more are alike than different.
Fair point, however. Why spend millions developing a new platform for a mid-engined V12 when you can sell 600 units for £2m plus while not having to develop a new platform? I am not questioning the idea but just putting it from corporate Ferrari's perspective. I do not think there is a strong enough case. They have a car that occupies that space in the SF90 while still offering a front engine V12 in the 12C. It is not a strong enough business case imho. The mid-engined V12 has becomes a premium aspirational experience for special clients and brings bigger margins for the business. Again just playing devils advocate.
I ordered (prepaid today) my 296 Speciale Coupe. When do you think the first customer cars arrive? I guess Q4 2025 the VVip´s and Q2 2026 starting with us "ordinary people".?
No signs of the rumored Piloti-exclusive body options from what I can see. https://www.instagram.com/p/DK2gXaNtlX7/
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Honestly kinda disappointed, I’m well aware that the 499 is the center of attention with its brilliant results and all but I thought we would maybe get something refreshing and different, we already have the hypercar inspired livery for the SF90’s…
Confused - the Hyper car buy-in was 200k? Guess they waived or ended that and it's now for Challenge owners - or maybe both? Love the spec - it's very Ferrari but not so easy to live with around town. Collectors will love it!
