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  1. KZEVO

    KZEVO Karting

    Jul 25, 2021
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    Ferrari was seen testing the STO a couple years back. @day355 made a comment back in 2022 (need to find that post) that alluded that ferrari was developing an answer to the STO. Not sure what happened or if and when we may start to hear rumors. My point of view - Ferrari clearly have a clientele that will buy a non hybrid NA car. Make one and sell it and don’t make it Icona or limited number. Make it a special series like a speciale or pista. please make one. Corvette did it with z06 amd lambo continued it with their v10. Porsche still continues with their NA 6 in gt3/rs. There will be enough demand…there are folks that do not care about 800 plus hp. I just want a lighter weight, NA high revving Ferrari. I repect the fact they have to make 800 plus ho cars. Thats fine and let the folks who want those get them.


     
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  2. Maximus1973

    Maximus1973 Formula 3

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    That would be of course a car we over here at this forum all want; but do we represent the typical buyer.... not sure.
    Of course, I'll line up to get one for sure.
    However develloping a fully new NA engine is just not something Ferrari would do. They have a V6, V8 and V12 right now in various specs.
     
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  3. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

    Feb 16, 2011
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    Remember Enzo's edict: Ferraris are all about the engine and the performance. He was so adamant that the "lowly" Dino didn't get a Ferrari badge. A lower performing Ferrari is not what the founder would have liked and it's not what Ferrari would do today.
     
  4. KZEVO

    KZEVO Karting

    Jul 25, 2021
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    i hear you. I hope there is at least a non-hybrid version. Until then i will focus on searching for a speciale with the right mileage that i can drive vs a garage queen.


     
  5. KZEVO

    KZEVO Karting

    Jul 25, 2021
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    I would argue in the world of vacuum cleaners, hybrids, a NA high revving motor will meet Enzo’s standards. The v12 does and its glorious. But the ferrari v8 were amazing too.
     
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  6. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    Enzo was all about power. According to Pierop, his dad would have embraced even pure electrics, if that meant winning. I am all for the N/A V12, the king of engines, but that's dependant on it being the best performing engine around.
     
  7. rg88

    rg88 Formula Junior

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    Signore Enzo didn't become who he was by confining his thinking in a box.
     
  8. Caeruleus11

    Caeruleus11 F1 World Champ
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    It’s a different world today, they have to comply with a lot of things. Remember a special version implies it’s the same car, just a bit more special in some ways.

    Sure it would be so cool to have a high revving NA engine, less weight, and make it stick shift too, and since we are going for the wish list, can I get more physical controls and a physical tachometer?

    But- in a world where Ferrari is selling a grater number of cars, no longer a small volume manufacturer, things like fuel economy and emissions matter.

    On my 296 window sticker I was astounded to discover it would get 49 MPG* (yes with a little “e” affixed to it). I doubt the F8 can do that. Also when SF90 came out, I checked the emissions and discovered, despite the V8 making more power, the system together was rated at about ½ the emissions. The lesson was clear to me- the way to get more power, and less emissions, is to go hybrid. At least for the tests- which is what matters when you are selling cars.

    So, unless they would make a tiny number of VS, why would they risk affecting their status?

    And why would they make a tiny number of VS when they can make many?

    It’s clear from their marketing program, if you want the NA engine, thats the V12, and thats at the top, which is just how Enzo said it. So I guess not much has changed, except it’s a lot more involved now.


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  9. rg88

    rg88 Formula Junior

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    FWIW, I was told by an insider that in addition to Sig. Piero, many other high ranking individuals drive the Purosangue with the V12. For me the Piccolo V12 is just fine.
     
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  10. Forza Scuderia

    Forza Scuderia Formula Junior

    Jan 13, 2015
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    People should stop speculating about NA 296 VS.

    The 296 VS is going to be hybrid. Period. The end.
     
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  11. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    Let's throw in a hand crank starter then.
     
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  12. Caeruleus11

    Caeruleus11 F1 World Champ
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    Ha! That probably goes a little too far for me!


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  13. ferrariguyf12

    ferrariguyf12 Karting

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  14. KL runner

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    Note the EV sticker on the side .
     
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  15. 9nb

    9nb Formula Junior

    Sep 1, 2012
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    Ferrari is about to launch F167 so obviously they needed to show something to fuel speculation, rumors and discussions on FerrariChat


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  16. jordanfsl

    jordanfsl Formula Junior

    Dec 11, 2010
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    This is what it obviously is going to be, but people love to think otherwise for some reason. Best we can hope for is more aggressive aero, maybe a tad less weight, and probably a 30-40hp gain.
     
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  17. 008

    008 Karting

    Jun 6, 2006
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    What are they even camouflaging in the above? It just looks like a 296. They may be testing parts but what’s the camo hiding here?
     
  18. Jo Sta7

    Jo Sta7 F1 Veteran
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    The VS is going to be epic.
     
  19. 9nb

    9nb Formula Junior

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    Only the front hood seems to be different.


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  20. Ivan Drago

    Ivan Drago Formula Junior

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    Or is that all you see because the camouflage is so good? :p
     
  21. Forza Scuderia

    Forza Scuderia Formula Junior

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    I believe that despite relatively mild spy shots seen above, the aero on this car is going to be highly aggressive.
     
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  22. uhn2000

    uhn2000 Formula 3

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    Agreed! A few suggestions here and there by those in the know, my gut feeling is its being unveiled well before the end of the year as the 2nd car of 3 for 2024. Remember the 296 GTB was launch June 2021 - its time for the VS version.
     
  23. Techman

    Techman Karting

    Dec 9, 2003
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    I don't think the 296 VS will be announced this year. The three cars for 2024 are likely:

    12 Cilindri
    12 Cilindri Spider
    LaF successor
     
  24. Ilferrarista92

    Ilferrarista92 Karting

    Dec 7, 2018
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    We will see it in 2025 along the new SF90.

    @day355 could we have some info please?
     
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  25. Forza Scuderia

    Forza Scuderia Formula Junior

    Jan 13, 2015
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    THIS is accurate. All other speculation about 2024 is wishful thinking
     

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