Has anyone’s dealers started taking holds for the VS for 296 owners?
Me today. If you bought a new Ferrari in the last 24 months and still have it, you could buy a 296 VS. If you have three cars in your garage and are on the list, you could buy a 296 VS Spider. (sometimes you need 5) I bought three new cars in the last 24 months—a 296, a 296 GTS, and a 12-Cylindri—and got the 296 and 296 GTS. However, I could not buy the VS GTS. I am only interested in the Spider and told my Ferrari dealer that the rule is ********. Because I dont have the space and the money for 3 Ferraris. I had 2010 2 Ferrari and 2 Lamborghini, but drove always just one. So it make for me no sense to have more than 2 in stock. But now a easy decision for me. I dont want the Coupe and dont get the Spider. So I spend the money for other things like Maldives.
yes I’m being told I can get an allocation and was curious if others are hearing the same at this point
If these are fully priced +++, given the market and the fact the VS coupes will be plentiful, it depends on the total upgrade cost from my GTS.
I'm waiting for the reveal. If I'm not impressed I will most probably sell the 296 GTS and get some older NA cars.
"You could not buy the VS GTS" - that's the current pre-selection claim, but the actual demand remains to be seen. Anyway, a so-called track-oriented version being a spider hardly makes sense (unless it's a purely speculative object).
Speciale vs Aperta is more like 2x - 458S coupe just sold today on BaT 750k low spec low miles on a decade old car - but people here who could have bought one under msrp did not and some know what the VS will be worth in a decade.
I wasn’t trying to focus the conversation around value or financial gain or loss. Was simply using it as a ref to show that track oriented spiders are clearly in very high demand despite people saying they aren’t “real track cars”.
That wasn’t his intended point. He’s saying if it’s really an object for the track, you wouldn’t get a spider version. You would get a coupe Of course you would also get some rollbar, lightweight everything, no unnecessary options, etc. Select few Ferrari owners track their cars, let alone the special versions. It’s not worth discussing in this thread.
Anyway, hybrid cars across the board have not held their value (for Ferrari or others). Check F8 vs 296 values today if you need a reality check. In the US, if the 25% tariff actually goes into effect (will not be forever probably) there is another loss markup on the car. Do not expect this to be a Speciale or Pista situation. Regardless, the car should be really sweet. Performance, looks, sound, etc. I think we are all expecting a really awesome car, regardless of how residuals turn out.
No one actually tracks a 'TRACK specialized' version. If you have the cash for a SF90XX and want to be active in track days, you're 10x beter off buying a Challenge version. Which is what most owners do; not tracking their SF90XX and getting a true track car.
Didn't direct ny post toward yours and agree - factories best effort to design / engineer aggressive Ferrari is most desirable but someone can have just as much fun with the prior model - probably even more b/c they bought the car to enjoy. Bought my 16M and Speciale below msrp - as like others here could not get a new limited edition. 16M was improved in Spider version for the first time to compete with coupe as was 812GTS vs coupe. XX I don't think there is any improvement, likely same for VS - we just don't know if the Spider VS will offer more aero hp to compete with coupe.
As far as not tracking - Spiders or limited the following Monday drove 18 hours and dragged back a Challenge car. View attachment 3806736
She's a beaut Clark! Can't wait. Wonder what differences the spider will have compared to coupe. Also, this car has a great exhaust tone. https://www.instagram.com/p/DG6MQSgqWNX/
You know f1 has regulations right? Not sure what you’re trying to get at. The halo for example is for driver safety, not performance
F1 have a carbon tub, nothing to be compared with a typical monoshell production car, for which the roof is an integral part of the stiffness (that was also different for old cars with a chassis, explaining why old race cars could be "barchettas"). CAD has improved a lot the mitigation of the spiders' drawbacks, but a spider is still typically heavier and less stiff than the closed version; for a pure cruising car it is not that serious, but for a so-called track oriented version it's a complete nonsense. Unless the track credentials claim is only a marketing gimmick and the real appeal is in the speculative value of a limited edition (... which seems to be the case, I have to admit).
Spider on track is a blast - it's not all about the value, it's about the experience and only a 1-2 second difference at Fiorano. SF90XX they tweaked soft suspension for lifter using non af set up to go faster than AF set up. I think we need to see what the VS offers Spider vs coupe. Spiders are higher VIP allocations - how many track their limited edition Ferrari at 9/10th's let alone 10/10th's - Let's see someone post their Ferrari LE coupe or spider at full pace for 20 minutes - showroom stock. I don't do research like prior - but Lambo SCV12 is all carbon - meaning no roll bar roof / tub cf not sure anyone else has built a like carbon set up. Track a Spider160 mph on straight and then say how it's 1-2 sec slower.
It says it all to me. Btw, I reached 166 mph on track with my regular 488 GTB (Dijon-Prenois track, long straight there); I'm certainly not skilled enough to go 9/10th but I'd like to see VS that would be designed for track users and not for VIP status holders (Ferrari could do both to address different motivations, I would have no issue with that).
Well I have a 488 Pista and I can tell you with certainty that it was not designed for any real track use , but rather a very sporty road car. First of all there is the height in the interior, if you wear even the thinnest helmet you’ll touch the roof and it will be uncomfortable ( this is with the lowest race seats ). Then there are the race seats , not enough lateral support. And the thing that gives it away is the suspension and excessive roll of the car. If you compare this to Porsche gt2 or gt3 there is a world of difference, those cars really were designed for some serious track use. don’t get me wrong, I love the pista and I use it on track a lot ( did put an entire race suspension on it ), but from the factory it’s not really designed to be used that way. And it will be the same for the 296VS.
Ordered GT3RS adding Matheny for dealer to install. Hoping XX coupe allows head room for helmet, add HANS set up - prefer Spider but hoping for the best with race XX seats. Im good with a sporty road car, excellent with top down and a big wing. Ferrari finally gave us some downforce with the XX - let's see what the VS produces and fingers crossed allocated a Spider.
And the brakes are terrible for tracking. The car is not a track car but a rather beautiful street car.
Brakes were a weak point on the 488 (and I guess it's the same on the F8); that's why I upgraded to ST / Pagid. The (even regular) 296 seems better in this respect, but with stratospheric operating costs.
