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308/328 in Beverly Hills Cop II

Discussion in '308/328' started by Rich S, Sep 22, 2014.

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  1. Rich S

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    Watched BHC II last night; finally noticed that in one of the early scenes, Eddie Murphy (or someone) is driving a 308 around Detroit... but not too much later, the "same car" is now a 328. And later yet, we again see a 308 instead of the intermediate-scene 328. Lastly, the "Ferrari" is seen after being totaled by his buddy. Lots of red car body bits but I couldn't make out from what car, or lookalike of some sort. Hopefully it was from some kit car horror, such as used to convert Fieros into... well, anyway. Of course, this movie was made in 1987, so it must have been noticed at least a few times before by others, just not by me. Anyone got a backstory to this? Just interested.

    Cheers,
    Rich
     
  2. wildcat326

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    Just that the stunt driving scenes used both a 308 Carb and injected (notice different mirrors when driving down the alley and driving on highway), and a 328 for the "gentle" driving bits, like parked in his garage, and pulling up in front of the bar or loading dock. Don't know WHY. Maybe some dealer/factory PR dept. restriction on use of newer, current-model 328, so they found some older models to stand in for highway and hard street driving?

    At any rate, in my household, when we watch BHCII, all lights must be off, and no one is allowed to talk for the opening five minutes.

    In fact, let's ALL take a five minutes of silence to revisit a great piece of cinema...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nllSQP4ADk
     
  3. Renato

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    That was a great opening scene...my very supportive wife actually DVR'd it for me when she recently saw it on a movie channel.
     
  4. Rich S

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    Quote: "At any rate, in my household, when we watch BHCII, all lights must be off, and no one is allowed to talk for the opening five minutes.

    In fact, let's ALL take a five minutes of silence to revisit a great piece of cinema..."

    I love it!!!

    Cheers,
    Rich
     
  5. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    I always wondered how they never noticed that in the edit room
     
  6. R.Robot

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    Sometimes the thought is "not may people will notice, or perhaps no one will".

    That thinking doesn't take into account the sharp eyes of Ferrari chat members.

    Good spot.

    While at it check out the German motorcycle Steve McQueen uses in the Great Escape.

    There are fewer and fewer mistakes, but sometimes budget does take away from true story props or locations.
     
  7. Rostami6

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    I noticed that too for the first time when it was the other day. I guess the editors were not car guys. Or perhaps the 328 was not available during some shooting or reshooting. Most movie sets I've ever been to (not very many) there is usually a back up identical car for car scenes. That may have not been the case there. But I'm sure there was a good reason. Frankly I found it more fun when I watched it recently, trying to catch how many times there were different cars being used in the beginning.
     
  8. wildcat326

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    As popular as the 328 was on launch that year, my guess is still that the dealership that loaned it expressly forbade "action" driving, so they procured the next best thing from willing owners or leasing companies.
     
  9. singletrack

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    "Your secret partner Mario Andretti Friedman wrecked the ******* Ferrari!"
     
  10. 4rePhill

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    When Beverly Hills Cop 2 was made in '87, the value of a 328 GTS was pretty much double that of a 308 GTS and so the older car was used for the high speed driving driving scenes.
     
  11. Rich S

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    OK, good enough, but then why use the 328 at all? Seems to me that if the 308 was fine for energetic driving it ought to have been more than good enough to pull up to a gate, or whatever. ???

    Still wondering just what it was that they trashed...?

    Cheers,
    Rich
     
  12. Todd308TR

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    They hoped we wouldn't notice and I didn't notice the first time I saw it.
     
  13. 4rePhill

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    As suggested earlier, it's quite possible that the supplier of the 328 stated that it wasn't to be used for any "stunt" driving, or it may have just been felt that the 328 looked a bit more modern and therefore better on screen for the slow driving scenes.

    TV and movie people do all sorts of strange things when it comes to vehicles on screen and hope that nobody notices!

    (Take the opening to Magnum PI for example: He pulls over, releases the roof catches pushes the roof towards the back of the car and then drives off with no sign of the roof panel anywhere. In reality, the roof panel should be sat either on the rear buttresses or on the engine lid! - The TV people simply hoped nobody would notice that what they're watching actually makes no sense).
     
  14. R.Robot

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    Tony Scott the director was a motor sport enthusiast. And loved Ferraris.

    He was also a great guy.
     
  15. Rich S

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    Quote: "(Take the opening to Magnum PI for example: He pulls over, releases the roof catches pushes the roof towards the back of the car and then drives off with no sign of the roof panel anywhere. In reality, the roof panel should be sat either on the rear buttresses or on the engine lid! - The TV people simply hoped nobody would notice that what they're watching actually makes no sense)."

    Question: when did this appear? An episode on TV or a pilot/movie, or...? Can't find it. ???


    Cheers,
    Rich
     
  16. Bullfighter

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    They used it in the opening sequence throughout the series, but it originally appeared in the first episode, Don't Eat the Snow in Hawaii.
     
  17. fastkarz

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    BHC II Continuity Did anyone else notice that when he pulled out of the garage that the Targa top was removed but when he arrived it was magically back on?

    Brian
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