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  1. bl10

    bl10 Formula Junior

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    After installing Derek's pulley system I'm degreeing the cams. My question revolves around a chart in an earlier post.

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    This chart shows and exhaust lobe center of 72 degrees. Can someone explain this to me as I get 108 degrees using a cam calculator.

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    What aren't I seeing.

    Barry
     
  2. thorn

    thorn F1 Rookie
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    The math in the calculator appears to be:

    180 (BDC to TDC) + 50 (open before BDC) + 14 (open after TDC) = 244 .
    244 / 2 (midpoint) = 122.
    122 - 14 (Exhaust closing after BDC) = 108.
     
  3. bl10

    bl10 Formula Junior

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    I think the calculator is correct. I'm questionion the chart above which shows the exhaust lobe center at 72 drgrees. There were several more charts in the same FC post that had really low exhaust lobe center degrees. Just wondering what the math is. I would expect the lobe centers to be pretty close to the same number. I the cam is installed straight up they should both be the same.

    Barry
     
  4. mwr4440

    mwr4440 Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Are you sure your looking at the right cams for your application?

    USA vs Euro cams for example?


    Don't know, just throwing a possibility out there.
     
  5. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #5 Steve Magnusson, Sep 15, 2020
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2020
    They say the same thing (but there is a typo in the chart):

    The chart says the exhaust lobe center is 72 deg ABDC. The error is that the Author wrongly wrote "72 BTDC" in the summary table. (Note the two scales in the chart -- one for BDC and one for TDC. The Author wrote "72" which is correct for the ABDC scale, but could also have written "108" which is correct for BTDC scale)

    The calculator says the exhaust lobe center is 108 deg BTDC.

    72 deg ABDC = 108 deg BTDC
     
  6. bl10

    bl10 Formula Junior

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    Thanks Steve

    I just didn't look at it that way. Just old and stuck in my ways.

    Barry
     

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