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308 dry sump block

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  1. Tour de Corse

    Tour de Corse Formula Junior

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    Hey guys,

    I am looking for a 308 2v dry sump block, short block or complete engine.

    Any hints, ideas or proposals are warmly welcome.

    All the best
    Morten

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  2. Moku

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    I believe Brian Crall may have one.

    Rob
     
  3. Tour de Corse

    Tour de Corse Formula Junior

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    Sorry, who is Brian Crall?

    Thanks anyway :)

    Morten
     
  4. 335s

    335s Formula Junior

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    Try Dennis McCann, in OHIO, he had one last time I was there...
     
  5. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Brian Crall would be me.

    I do have one laying around but I am not really in the market to sell.

    Sorry.
     
  6. Tour de Corse

    Tour de Corse Formula Junior

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    Hey Brian,

    If I was a more frequent Fchatter, I bet I would have known you already :)

    Anyway, I have a few other alternatives, so no problem that you keep your block.

    All the best
    Morten
     
  7. formula GT

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    I just convert 2 wet-sump engines to drysump with a very original look.
    The oilpumps are in the engine also driven by chain. Connections are very similar to original drysumpversion.
    Maybe this is interesting for you.
    Peter
     
  8. mk e

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    Pictures would be very cool!
     
  9. st@ven

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    very intersting. Can you share more on this?
     
  10. Newman

    Newman F1 World Champ
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    I thought wet and dry sump blocks were the same casting just machined accordingly. If you look at the wetsump block there is a large unmachined boss on the back for one of the oil lines that the drysumps have. The front cover is different too.
     
  11. duck.co.za

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    #11 duck.co.za, Feb 17, 2010
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  12. mk e

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    and that is exactly why god gave us tig welders :)
     
  13. duck.co.za

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    #13 duck.co.za, Feb 17, 2010
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    No no that's for when we move the 360 oil pumps so that the 360 motor will fit on a 308 gearbox !!!
     
  14. mk e

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    The 308 dry sump pump looks very similar to the 360 pump...i wonder it the 360 (or 355 or 348) pumps would easier to get than the rareish 308 dry sump pump?
     
  15. Newman

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    Maybe some have them and some dont. The reason I mentioned it is someone I know told me they had a wetsump block with that boss but undrilled. Maybe an early block destined for US consumption like a 76 might have?
     
  16. duck.co.za

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    It's only a two stage scavenge ( 308 drysump ) where the 360 has the pressure side in it as well . The 308 pressure side is in the front housing ., but you have a good point . The 360 pump can be taken apart/ split and maybe you can just use the scavenge end ???
     
  17. duck.co.za

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    You are quite right , just not all of them are possible and I found out the hard way !!
     
  18. mk e

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    I sure hope so.....that is my plan for using the scavenger section of a 360 pump on my V12
     
  19. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    You want me to crawl under there, and look???
     
  20. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I am sure it would be. I sold a used 308 pump a few years ago for pretty good money to a very well known guy with the resources to find pretty rare stuff. No question in my mind, I'd find a 360 or 355 motor with a leg out of bed and adapt that pump.
     
  21. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    #21 Rifledriver, Feb 17, 2010
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    Early blocks had the bosses. They went away at some point but I am not sure when. Probably not long after the injection became world wide.


    I just looked at an 82 here and it has the bosses on the block.
     

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