308-dumb question: Do all 308s (and 328s) use the same clutch?

YES

 

yes

I think they can use the heavier Daytona too

 

I was told that the 328 clutch is a few mm's thicker than the 308.Just what I was told but I can't back it up with any first hand experience

 

updated spare parts numbers are the same for pressure plate and clutch disc.

121562 pressure plate 308 / 328
120482 clutch disk 308 / 328

Best Regards from Germany

Martin

 

Yes, all the same, Mondial too.

and Yes, the stronger pressure plate of the V12 can be used too, but is not necessary.

The V12 guys need to be careful they don't get the wrong one though.

Side note... I fitted a new clutch cable recently, to a 308, the old one was frayed at the little wheel at the back, but otherwise no fault...

the new cable REALLY made it lighter...

The old one has a channel cut in the outer by the inner cable, which then grabs a bit.

Same thing happens with throttle cables too.... they're not that expensive... treat yourself, it makes a difference.

 

Anyone here look into the high-performance Kevlar clutch kit offered by Norwood Performance??? I was wondering if anyone has used this instead of the Borg and Beck...

I also heard a story that the 328 Clutch was thicker than the 308 clutch - if they're the SAME, somebody out there is telling stories to sell clutches...

 

maybe true that the 328 clutch is slightly thicker than the original 308 clutch, but maybe this doesn't matter, because there's enough space inside the bellhousing.
Actually formerly the 308 spare parts number was different, but nowadays it's the same.
Also, but this is my personal experience; I have the impression, that they are lasting longer than in former times.
My car got the third clutch at 65.000 kms. I've driven over 40.000 with that third clutch since and no signs of weakness so far.

Best Regards

Martin

 

Martin,
I was wondering if the new ones are being made of newer material. It seems clutches on new cars are lasting 100k-150k because of newer material, is there a reason 308 clutches cannot (are not) being made with these materials?

George

 

George,

there's probably some truth. Not only the friction material might be modern stuff, but for instance the leaf springs too, which are also heat treated by more modern procedures than during the old days.

Best Regards

Martin

 

Phil,

this may be of little significance for Australia, but LHD clutch cables for the GTB/GTS are hard to get at the moment.
Even Ferrari UK is out of stock. Do you know about a source ?
I have a spare for my personal needs, but a friend with a 328 is searching desperately, because his is also frayed a little.

Best Regards and thank you

Martin

 

Are clutch cables different for LHD/RHD... A RHD car has a cross shaft over to the LH side of the car... I "assume" therfore the cable to be the same, but I don't know without looking it up.

I just bought a genuine cable from F-UK, for RHD. In stock. Arrived in Oz in 4 days from order.

There is also a local cable manufacturer near me, but F-UK price/availablilty made it a simple decision. I could have made a one off cheaper, but not by much, and originality and "Knowing" it will fit first time is worth it to me.

 

Phil on a side note is fitting a new clutch cable a nightmare or is it a basic enough job?

 

Fairly straight forward. Access is tricky around steering rack end.

Outer Cable threaded end can corrode into chassis at the front, setting up exact lengths for smooth and correct operation is important.. it's all in the owners manual though... use the pin through the 6mm hole at the helper etc.

Took me a little over 3 hours to replace this last one.. it was corroded a bit, and the threads in the chassis needed re-tapping to fit the new one smoothly.

Cable was under $200 including shipping, duty and GST from UK.

 

at least there are different parts numbers

106745 LHD ( out of stock since months at Ferrari UK )
108342 RHD ( in stock )

I'm curious about the difference, because I just had a look at the parts diagram of the RHD cars and saw the cross shaft for the first time.
No clue, why the RHD / LHD - cables should be different.

Up to the present moment I thought, that there must be a different length, but due to that crossover design this is unnecessary.

Best Regards from Germany

Martin

 

Thanks Phil.Do they need periodic greasing.My clutch pedal feels a bit notchy sometimes when I am just taking off and having to hold the clutch in.I dont feel anything when I change gears but it feels like it could do with some greasing

 

Do you have the part numbers for the Borg & Beck clutch set and where in the US carries the parts. Thanks.

 

Any of the US ferrari parts suppliers carry clutches. Go to the 308/328/Mondial area. At the top there's a 'sticky' thread titled something 'where can I get parts'...

Names that come to mind offhand: Ricambi,TRutlands,George Evans, Dennis McCann, Ferrparts...