Well, not much is happening. Just trying to save up some $$$ for the last major part of the rebuild. I would hate to skimp out on this part. The motor. I have some other priorities that need to get done first and then i can tackle the block. Here's a picture of where things stand. Image Unavailable, Please Login
i was reading a bit earlier in the post and am curious as to where your "whacking" point was on the heads?? I saw you used a piece of wood and gave the head a good beating with a sizable hammer, but what was the optimal beating angle??
sheesh lol. I plan on removing my engine heads for the next major, and at the advice of rifledriver's previous post regarding the subject, I am going to try and remove them with the engine in the car at first (wish me luck with this one). Problem is, I don't see any good angles to really get in and do this. I have done some measurements at the front of the engine and it looks like it can be done with a tiny bit of clearance to spare but I am just not sure how others have done it this way :/ ok back on topic. didn't want to derail this at all
As close to straight upwards (ie: in line with the cylinders) as possible, just be sure you don't whack the block :-{. A long piece of wood will help keep the hammer away from it... If it doesn't come with reasonable effort, you might see if luckydynes will rent you his mega 2Valve head puller.
Pretty much anywhere i could get the angle on the heads. Just kept on it for a few hours. But if you're going to do it in the car i think you will need the puller like Verell mentioned. Good luck.
A puller would be nice if I could fit it in there :/ I just spoke with the original mechanic on the car on N Cal. He advised me that this particular engine should have very little issues in getting the heads off. He has serviced/overserviced this car since '76 and knows it better than anyone. This conversation definitely made me feel better about doing this. Will start a new post when this project gets going! to be continued....
Mk e posted some pix of a very simple puller that should fit awhile back in either his V12 conversion thread or luckydynes head puller thread. Basicly it was several steel bars. Each bar was about 2" wide, it pressed down on the 2 studs for a single cylinder & was mounted using existing studs. The only thing that protruded above the stud ends were the 2 bolts pressing down. If necessary to get clearance you could use a series of bolt lengths as the head started to move.
Ever considered moving south? I'm sitting outside on the deck, dressed in shorts and a shirt. (visiting a friend in LA)
Just wanted to get back to this with one more question. I was looking at a diagram of the crankcase/cam drives/oil pump and I'm assuming i should remove all that before i drop off the block? Looks like it's a whole separate part and it has nothing to do with the work that he has to do. What do you think?
Chris, Yes, pull the front cover. Check oil pump clearance. (The guys at the shop were shocked at how small the 2V pumps are.) See parts needed to rebuild a 1981 2V 308. Main bearings need to be checked. Three center caps are usually loose, ferrari factory flaw, these caps will need knearled and machined. (My block is going to get "Line bored" after this.) A line bore is recommended, but you have to bolt your heads back on to do this. (AAAAAArrrrrrrgggggg,,,, what, you want it done right ,,, right?) Chris, can I borrow your "Used" set of 308 2V Ferrari head gaskets......? I feel your pain, Edwardo PM me.... Image Unavailable, Please Login
I've just had a set of JE pistons made for my motor and thanks to m ke they are in a very smart crate on there way to me here in SA . Apparently Wiseco bought out JE about a year ago ( was not a very happy merge ) and now JE make all the custom pistons and Wiseco only make to there catalog . The JE spec sheet you have to fill in is detailed , but pretty simple . It was a pleasure working with the guys . You need to know what valve lift you are going to use as they need to get the valve pocket depths correct . Of course that's what I'm considering changing now , but to marginly less lift so I should be ok . Sounds to me like there are a few of us who are interested in cams and we could arrange a bulk order/discount ? I'm considering the "Daytona " grind from Webcams , anyone else interested ?
Dave, I suppose the other goodies will be in the same crate? When do you anticipate it to arrive? I'll come help you unpack!
Should be here in 4 to 6 weeks and then we have to get it out of customs which can take a while !! You are more than welcome to come and visit on " The Day " !! The other bits are not that exciting to look at as it's a very black burnt motor , but wait until it's all cleaned up in my new wetblast machine and we can get excited . I had to include a pic of the crate built by a master engineer !!! Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Dave, Nice crate! Nice contents! It'll be fun to dig into the internals of that puppy. What blaster did you buy? Torbo?
Dave, That is going to be a Monster...! Are you going to put the crank and rods in a 2V block.....? Edwardo
Anyone else done a rebuilt and over bored like Nick did with his 3.5L project? Also, did you say something about getting the heads done? What was done to them and who did it? Thanks
We are hijacking Pitzaman Chris's thread here , but I'm rebuilding my original motor as per Chris is doing and then I have a plan to try and graft a 360 motor onto a 308 box . The motor in the pic is a spare , just to see if I can make it work before I tear into my good motor . Mark has already been inside this motor and managed to get some of the Ti rods he required . We had also looked at fitting the 360 crank and liners to a 308 block with custom rods ! Wonder if the 360 heads could be made to fit , MARK ! On a side note I saw some pic's of I think it was "Gleggys" motor that had been wetblast burnished , it was awesome and I had to find out how to do that . So I managed to find a wetblaster in pieces and have refurbed it and so far have had encouraging results , not good enough yet but getting there . I went and found Gleegys pic hope he doesn't mind , but hows that for a finnish !!!!! Image Unavailable, Please Login
Hey, i don't mind the hijack. As long as we are talking short blocks. That's a purdy looking block. It will be a damn shame to get it dirty.
Wiseco still makes custom pistons, I just think they no longer do it for retail customers. Good thing too, JE is not the product it once was. These are Wisecos we just recently had made. Image Unavailable, Please Login