308 front spoiler material question

Hello from Germany,

there's no such thing like a 'US-spoiler' or 'Euro-Spoiler'. You could order a Euro-car with the small or the deep spoiler. The latter was a factory option available from around 1977 on.
The small one is made of sheetmetal, the big / deep one made of grp ( resin / fibreglass ).

Best Regards

Martin

 

and needs repairing a lot

6 times in 2 years I've had to get the deep spoiler fixed due to speed humps, driveways, dips in the road .......

 

the deep front spoiler is most definitely fiberglass. It is absolutelty gorgeous, but perfectly miserable to live with. As mentioned before, going up steep driveways and speed bumbs can wreak havoc. I think if I got another 308 w/ one- I would try to find the a used non-spoiler chin piece and store my deep front spoiler- so I wouldn't have to worry about crunching it

 

Hello from Germany,

I'm sorry but I have to disagree. I own my car with the deep front spoiler since 12 years, drove 45.000 kms ( ~28k mls. ) with it and never had any damage. Some years ago I had it resprayed because of those many unsightly stone chips. By the time one gets used to first think, whether it's possible to drive across some obstacles or whether it's better to avoid it or drive VERY slowly.
And we have A LOT of bad roads, high curbs, etc. And worse are the speed bumps in nearby France.
The only thing I strictly have to avoid is the ramp of the ferry across our nearby Rhine River.

Best Regards

Martin

 

What kind of surface texture was used for deep-spoiler made from fiberglass?

Question pecause I have GTBi (Euro) that have deep-spoiler and it has an rough texture on it, also the rear side piece (aroun tail pipes made also from fiberglass) have same texture, is this "boxer-paint" car?



assume it is, it has original paint (wheels under it now are for driving, I have original wheels stored...) except lower section has been repainted along with spoiler and lower rear section.

I also have -77 GTB (US) and it got sheetmetal spoiler and it is "boxer-paint" car but it has smooth surface.

 

Boxer paint means, that the lower half is painted flat black. Like the Boxer cars from 365GT/4 BB till 512 BB carb. The later 512 BBi had the lower half painted in the body color. At least this was stock. Heaven knows how many carb car owners painted the whole car in body color and how many BBi owners painted the lower half black. For my personal taste it really suits the Boxer cars but I don't like it on the V8 cars.

Talking about the texture you obviously see on your front spoiler; it has to be perfectly smooth and no visible texture is allowed to be seen. Either it's a poor reproduction or a poor paint job with insufficient surface prep.

Regarding your wheels; these look like original 7 or 7,5 x 14" rims ? Aren't they ? Or are you rather talking about tyres than wheels ?

Best Regards from Germany

Martin

 

My front spoiler is the shallow version and fiberglass with a texture. I guess it was relaced at some point.

 

Here is picture of my frontspoiler, rear valance looks to same:


Under the spoiler center piece is mat black and smooth, rest of it is textured as seen in photo. Rear valance; same thing under it is black an smoot rest of it look like front spoiler.

There is no point to make this kind of texture if you can fix and paint spoiler and rear valace, if you have to make this texture why not spray all of it and not protect underside center of spoiler in place where no-one ever watch?
And this car is not only car out there with this kind of texture finish...

Here is random thought for you; if you ordered your car new with "boxer-paint", what if your dealer made order with no Boxer-paint (there for smooth surface) and charge you extra money for paint mede by Ferrari and let one of his mechanics to make "boxer paint"?

And yes, wheels are 7,5 x 14", but original are millimeter wheels and set of TRX

 

I really have no clue, what this should have to do with 'Boxer paint'. Factory Boxer paint is the lower half of the - Boxer cars - painted flat black and it's smooth.
The texture one can see on your photo looks like a stone chip protection coat beneath the red paint. I have seen it as well, but it never was factory.


Best Regards from Germany

Martin

 

1977 308 GTB US Steel #20817 released in January 77. Fiberglass front spoiler. Original US Spec.

Tim

 

Hmm, I've seen quite a few of the deep spoilers here in the US, & ALL of them have had the rocker schutz(aka chip protection). The rocker schutz is only on the front edge of the lower lip with demarcation blend lines at the 90 degree points of the front edges. The rest of the spoiler is smooth high gloss paint just like the upper body portions.

As for damage, so far I've had to redo my deep spoiler 3 times 2x to the tune of $600-$800, & 1 I did myself & decided the shops were earning every bit that they charged.

Admittedly, having a brick step about 12" in front of where the car has to stop for the garage door to come down accounted for 1 of them.

However, It's very hard to keep from scraping road irregularities around here. So far I've done pretty well, but I sure wouldn't want to lower the car any as it barely clears most (not all) of the speed bumps when moving very slowly. A half inch lower & it would scrape 90+% of them!!!

 

i took delivery of my 84 308 new (actually 24 years ago today- sorta scary) there was absolutely no form of stone protection on the dip front spoiler and there was no flex agent in the paint to help protect it from whoops

 

Martin I'd tend to disagree about the spray shurtz being non factory.........I have three cars that are ALL different and Tom S. has discussed it with me.

#20405 has a shallow glass front spoiler that is smooth and painted body color, no shurtz
#22127 has a shallow glass front spoiler with a TUBULAR NERF BAR thru it!!! Frame mounted, spray shurtz under Black Boxer Trim.

This is my most interesting one as the bar detail going thru the spoiler itslef to the frame is a very interesting detail, when I have the time I'll engage a Factory discussion on this and see what info they have.

#22641 has a three piece steel shallow spoiler as my newest car, and the spray shurtz is once again present, under the Black Boxer Trim paint.

The reason I cite that the front shurtz is OEM is that it matches the texture down the side rockers and sprayed onto the rear valences behind the wheels as well, the break line for the shurtz is much lower that the black Boxer Trim paint, a different masking line entirely....

Alan

 

Here is another my car, Mondial, same thing;
frontspoiler, rear valance with spray shurtz.

38tkm on odometer