308 glass-fibre values

Hello, Newman. So, how would one go about checking for a corroded inner structure without doing a teardown during PPI? (Obviously rust on the rockers is going to show up.)

 

I've had a real hard time wrapping my head around this show car stuff: What does that car need (I've only seen the photos), other than ripping out the ceiling console and repairing the damage?

 

Everything you touch on these cars is now hard to find....the ceiling liner....hmmmm..yea...

I bought some sun visors two years back now, very hard to find..the snaps tear out.

Anyway daviddavid I think the glass cars are SO rare there are not many left 'in between' like you are seeking......

Valued cared for examples are taking off.........or it's 'found off the coast 50' deep' type fright pigs.....

Thankfully few glass cars went there but I'm sure many were crashed, rolled and burned.....

that's 'full use'....LOL!

 

Swiss spec cars are pretty cool as different from both Euro AND North American versions in special details......

 

Opus, a million things go into a 100 point attempt..

Labels, screw heads, knurled carb box lid cover nuts.............

It is really hard to get a beater back to 'carefully maintained' appearance...better to buy all that in the deal, IMO.

there's still a few out there!

 

Like all the 308s everyone tosses around production numbers.."712"...how many are LEFT?

These cars lived a fast life back in the day...

 

Hi folks! Interesting thread. If it was for sale I wouldn't take a penny less than 65k for mine. It's a '77 euro glass car. It's "preserved" rather than restored. It got a platinum at the FCA annual meet which was a total surprise.

I think that the appreciation we're starting to see is the result of three factors. First is "a rising tide floats all boats". Second is (relative) rarity. Third is that since 308s were a "poor man's" Ferrari for so long that it is hard to find a good one now.

My 2 cents.

 

Dude, welcome and spot on........

The 308 Market Charts are complex, but your car will lead the way......

What you found is the new perspective on Survivors vs. Everything looks Brand new...it swung the other way for awhile...

Post a pic...please.... of the car!

 

Some obvious items from the pics: wrong steering wheel, aftermarket overhead console (probably means undoing aftermarket wiring, finding/installing a new headliner), aftermarket mirrors, box speakers mounted on the shelf (drilling and wiring for those), tired-looking interior, drilled front spoiler... and this isn't 100- or 95-point stuff. It's table stakes.

It's hard to tell what else might need doing, but open your checkbook. It's all about originality. If you're buying a $20K 308 to drive into the ground, well, who cares. But if you're dropping $50K on a 'glass car, this stuff matters more.

 

Steering wheel, same as Boxer these years...none available....see?

 

Yes the rockers can been seen for the most part but if you can get a look along the inside from the rear wheel opening you will get the real picture. As well, the small tubes surrounding the hood opening at the front edge rot, get a hand up there or look from the grill up to where the hinges are mounted. The lower frame that is boxed which is the front extension of the tube chassis that holds the rad also rots, not to mention the rad supports. Mine wasnt rotten in these areas thank god, mine was mostly doors and the rear 1/4 sections around the US spec marker lamps. The other rough areas unique to the US spec cars has all been removed and returned to euro spec so its like it never happened.

 

...Funny how I missed all that stuff, for all the drooling. Thanks!

Having driven an early 308 with the original, useless mirrors, "eh - take the .5point".

"Tired interior" or 'survivor'?

"Drilled spoiler"?

 

Very helpful. So a thorough inspection should include removing the rear wheel well liners to provide the view you mention.

Looks like rust is universal...

Two holes drilled directly into the deep spoiler -- the caveman method of affixing a front plate bracket.

 

If they have nothing to hide they should let you during the PPI.

 

There's at least ONE Euro 308GTB dry sump that lurks here, not a project at all it's in a collection.......

He's not rising to your thread.......

You will not get the same 'feel' from any injected engine you get from the carbed cars, IMO.........

Thanks for the pics that top blue looks to be what's on one of mine (under red! LOL!)

Yea, a green 308GTBi or QV was next to me at FFQC 2004, a stunning car he made Platiunum under FCA judging......

Sorry to hear your search was fruitless but I really feel we have used them all up.......the rest are now "collectible" as a power buyer was RIGHT behind me on my last deal for #20405 a November 1976 steel car.....

You didn't want the wet sump 'glass one the lid blew off????

That $50K one we are ripping on has some kind of motor kit in it, hard to say if it's just the cams or the whole NART LeMans package........who knows?

 

See you there.........LOL!

Yea I specifically targeted my first NON CAT car for the performance with the knowledge they would soon be Exempt here from Smog Testing although for a few years it was tuned to pass......

No doubt the injected cars are a little easier to maintain but they have a bunch of wonky interlock devies....WUR and stuff like that.

The other town cars just followed me home........

I say again, I think in Europe a good 'glass dry sump can still be found......

 

I'll post FFQC pics from home later the green metallic was very pretty!

 

Search the tech board. I know at least one guy swapped out his FI on his mondial for webers with really good results.

If you want the carbs and have money to 'restore', maybe look for a QV-GTB that needs a little love and put webers on it during the restoration process. It removes tons of weight off the engine to boot.

 

Yea that car would have been perfect for him... Celebrity ownership too.. What happened to it?

 

The guy was pretty hard looking for $20K and it looked as if it had been outside too long to my eye...

Fibreglass freezes and cracks if exposed over years like that.....the interior was pretty far gone and engine/tranny was "who knows"....

Not $20K there, to me.........

 

So I got another pristine two owner 1976 steel for ...well, not that much more $$$$$.....


And drove it all the way home from Chicago!

 

It had been seized by the Federal Government at one point, not the kind of thing I like to see on my Title's history..........LOL!