I know we have a lengthy thread on the 308 GTB/GTS build number but I thought I'd start one on the GT4 specifically. We had some discussion in the "How Many GT4s on here" thread a year ago so I'll pull out that data later.
As far as I know only about 70 GT4s were made in 1974 so obviously the build number does not only apply to that model. The build numbers presumably were stamped during production of the body before it reached Ferrari. Like all hand built cars no two would have been exactly the same and they needed to ensure that the same panels went back on the same car after paint hence all loose panels are numbered. (although I'm yet to find any on the bonnet, boot or engine lid) The fact that the bodies were built away from the Ferrari factory might also explain the inconsistency with some of the build numbers. You can easily imagine a situation where a body got built but ended up with a small problem and is put to one side for rectification and only used later on or if it got pushed into a far corner and was awkward to get out leaving other shells to make it out the door first. Regarding my own build number of 418 I found the following numbers for "sister cars" #09080 has build No 417 - LHD Swiss car #09112 has build No 491 - RHD Australian car #09114 has build No 418 - RHD UK car (my car) An interesting topic. Cheers Jon
I don't get it. How come there are multiple parts stamped all over my car, headlight buckets, bucket frames, interior parts etc stamped 43 ?
My car, #10688, has a build number 372. As for production numbers, the Keith Bluemel book has a table with the year and numbers produced. I can look it up tonight. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
The locations I've found the build number so far are: On the headlight brackets On the lower trim rail of the doors On the rear of the door hinge covers On the rear of all the aluminium trim parts including those used on the headlining. On the rear of the rear seats and other fibreglass trim parts, either hand written on masking tape or written directly on the fibreglass in crayon. What I haven't found, and I would have expected to, is the build number stamped on the Bonnet, Boot, Engine cover or anywhere on the Main Body, these may become apparent after the shell is dipped. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
You see me slighlty suprised...the factory production figures for the 308 GT4, as quoted in the annexes of Dirk-Michael Konradt's book, are: (additional figures between brackets are the 2 litre 208GT4 for the italian market only) 1974: 764 (+ 0) 1975: 130 (+ 468) 1976: 439 (+ 193) 1977: 320 (+ 84) 1978: 267 (+ 24) 1979: 326 (+ 47) 1980: 118 (+ 23) Rgds
Usually at Ferrari, build number sequences were different for each market version. I have never looked at the 308GT4 build numbers, but the 308 GTB had at least four different series of build numbers, each serie beginning at "1" for: LHD Euro variant LHD US variant RHD UK variant RHD Australian variant. Rgds
Yes my mistake no idea where that number came from!. But I think your numbers for 1975 are incorrect. I have the following 1974: 764 (+ 1) 1975: 598 (+ 468) 1976: 439 (+ 193) 1977: 320 (+ 84) 1978: 267 (+ 24) 1979: 326 (+ 47) 1980: 118 (+ 23) Total: 2826(+ 840) Of the 2826 308 GT4s 547 where RHD
I suspect the same arrangement wasn't used for the GT4 since they only made 547 RHD cars and mine has build 418 from Oct 1974. I think we would need more data to come to any conclusion though.
So there were 700 + cars built in 74? I thought 74 had less built than 75. I don't know where I got that from anyways, #43 stampings all over my 1975 CHASSIS #9966
ok thx. but at the time I wasn't aware there were that many 74s built. which is why I didn't understand a build number of 418 on dusty 74. my mistake. but I still cant get the yearly 308gt4 numbers to total 2826. bad calculator? maybe
So the question is the production in 1975. The figures you give is 598 (+468). That "598" is in fact the addition of the two figures provided in the book I quote for 308GT4 and 208GT4: 130 + 468. The figures you give for 1975 seem possible, but a tad suspicious to me considering the total production of the factory at the time: that would be 1066 cars, which I doubt is possible. I shall try to cross-check with the numbers of other models produced that year. Rgds
My car is #13366, a 1977 RHD UK car, blue paint, cream/brown vinyl interior. Build number seems to be 1299 but the headlight pods are stamped 1267. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I think the guy in the foreground is looking for the build number Carrozzeria Scaglietti, circa 1975: Photo- Hilary A. Raab, Jr. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Bertone designed the body, which means drawings. Scaglietti was a "carrozzeria", which means building these. Rgds
Ok thx. according to a photo in a book by Ludvegsen there is a photo of a gt4 being assembled at bertone. So where did the tab photo come from
I don't know. Scaglietti was an indépendant builder of bodies, whose Factory was Just the other side of the road from the Ferrari factory. During the fifties and the sixties, he became more and more involved in the building of road cars, si Much That Ferrari bought it outright in 1975. The last Ferrari (or Dino.. ) That Scaglietti built as a fully indépendant workshop was the 246. Rgds