Hi, I'm looking for information on the car mentioned onthe title. I know the car was (very) unofficial Gr. 5 competition conversion made by Finotto/Facetti in the early 1980's, but thats about all. I have found only few pictures on internet. Does any of you guys have photos or any race history information on this car? Thanks in advance, Niko
i have just one pic from somewhere around the net. the biturbo engine was told to have more than 800hp. never seen the car - who owns it and where is it today ? Image Unavailable, Please Login
I've seen that website also, other sources mention only one car. I'm quite sure that all three Carmas mentioned on that site are the same car, just in various stages of it's lifetime. -Niko
Thanks for these pics Vince. So, according to your sources there has been two of these cars? So far only one new pic though. -Niko
Based upon a recent press article ,the most adequate indication for the car shall be " Ferrari 308 GTB IMSA Gr.5 Carma". Back 1979/80 the gentlemen drivers Carlo Facetti and Martino Finotto ( names initials : Car-Ma FF ) operated a small shop in Zingonia ,close to Bergamo, realizing with a small team of technicians this Gr.5 racer on the "silouhette" of the Ferrari 308. The target was the participation at Gr.5 championship and IMSA races. From the original 308 body only the mid section was maintained, front and back sections were redesigned, including corners ( suspensions and wheel hubs) and external panels. The transverse mounted V8-3L engine was turbocharged via 2 K27 turbochargers+aftercoolers but maintained carburators. To improve air flow a new 4 valve engine head was designed ( at that time QV was not in production by Ferrari) as well as a new, high capacity engine water cooling system to accommodate a top power of 920 to 950 HP @ 8800 RPM for a max torque of 105 KGM @ 6500 RPM. By a a mass of 1020 KG the car was REALLY fast and could reach a top speed between 285 and 415 Km/H, based upon trasmission, on 19" wheels. In 1981 car debuted at 24 hours of Daytona and completed just 10 laps but performed the best lap in 1'48"14, in front of Porsche, Lancia and many other factory cars. In the same year the car raced at Monza, Pergusa, Silverstone and Kyalami . Few races were made also in 1982. Accordingly to Mr. Facetti, the car was too advanced and difficult to develop ,for the technology level of the `80 , the limits being posed by tires ,engine management / electronics, transmission and aerodinamics ( made in house at Carma by Mr. Degan, former Alfa Romeo/Autodelta engineer ). As reference Mr. Facetti cited that at Daytona practice, he passed on the straight line the Porsche of Danny Ongais "like he was at idle", in fact Danny's speed was 357 Km/H. All together it seems that 3 of these cars were made, one owned by Mr. Roberto Benelli. The full article can be asked at [email protected] PS. This project had apparently nothing in common with the Michelotto developments on the 308 even if there are some similarities, being Michelotto at that time more oriented to rally cars. To be noted that on the same time frame Ferrari had in house own developments on V8 turbo applications, which later became 208 Turbo, 288 GTO and F40.
Resurrecting an old thread in order to find out if anyone knows the current whereabouts of this car which was the subject of today's email from VeloceToday: Finotto, Facetti and the Ferrari Carma Where the question is yet again asked... where is this car?
750 000 according to this seller of this one. I guess it must be difficult to put a price tag on this kind of car. http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=203534736
