Yes Greg, I'm fine, thanks. Mostly due to the fact that spring is here at last, about two months late this year. According to the statistics, we had, for the last six months, the coldest, cloudiest and wettest winter and spring since at least 25 years, and our central european friends are deep in big floods now... During this time, I managed, with the help of a very kind american owner, to arrange the import of a true "Saratoga Top" for my 328 GTS from California...it had not left the car yet, as Top-off driving was not possible until now. As for that swiss glass car in Japan, we have been discussing it for the last two days on a french Ferraristis forum with "Fukuranku", one of our countrymen working in Japan. He didn't recall the c/n at first, so I decided to post it here because the car seems pretty, and because I was hoping to enlarge the search somewhat. Now we have a brand new, unknown number... The serial numbers serial-collectors somewhat manage to fill some blanks for the 308 and 328 on the major markets, even if there are still some blanks to be filled here in Europe in particular, but some countries remain "terra incognita". I wish some Japanese enthusiast with a big list of "unknown numbers" will pop here someday! Not to speak about all other "remote" markets we knew almost nothing of, like latin america...when will the list be complete? At least we have one more! Take good care of yourself and your car...I love these "pocket rockets"... Rgds
Nerofer, actually it's all the more surprising that the car arrived in Japan only in 2008, so before that it was probably in Europe for many years. It somehow managed to remain hidden from all those serial collectors...
In fact, this does not surprise me at all... To begin with, the actual number of "Vetroresinas" built is not known with certainty: most sources says 712, some say 808, and when you add the known numbers market by market the answer seems to be "somewhere between 712 and 808". Therefore, we don't even know how long the list is, nor will we be able to ascertain one day that we are done with it and the list is complete for sure! Then, we are speaking of Ferrari in the seventies, where nothing can be taken for granted or carved in stone: for instance, last year on this forum, we discussed a car from its chassis number, only to discover that two others cars had the exact same chassis number…and we couldn't have a formal conclusion on what number goes with which car… Lastly, the world of Ferrari owners is very diverse: some cars are frequently on the roads and appear regularly in public. Some others are driven very rarely, only in remote places, and may not have been seen at all by any "serial number" spotter. And some cars are almost never driven. The car we are speaking of has 50.000 kms on the odometer and spent 31 years in Europe between 1977 and 2008, which makes about 1600 kms per year, or 140 per month…that's not much. Rgds
this is the so called "Assembly Number". It is totally indipendent from the VIN or S/N. Modern cars starting with the Testarossa, the Mondial and the 348 have it on a seperate plate, normally to be found in the engine bay. Here are the details: Assembly Numbers | F-Register Matthias Urban F-Register.com DinoRegister.com
thanks Matthias, found it in a few places now, like on the front wing grilles as I had them out the other day.
Interesting .... they have a different car at the shop (dark red, single exhaust but same black interior and mileage - and speedo in Km/hr) Was this blue one purchased by someone?
In the current issue of the Cavallino Magazin there is the same value for the 308 Vetro and the 308 Steel. 45.000-90.000$ but is this correct, same Price/Value? What do you think ?
1976 Ferrari 308 GTB vetroresina owners warranty and service book for sale: Anamera 1976 Ferrari 308 GTB owners warranty and service book 115/76 trilingual book in english in french in italian 1976 44 pages 24cm x 15cm new/not stamped
1976 Ferrari 308 GTB vetroresina for sale: Anamera Fiberglass body designed by Pininfarina, with a weight of 1050 kg. Tubular chassis, double wishbone independent suspension for all four wheels. 3 L V8 engine of a cylinder double overhead camshaft, with four Weber carburetors and dry sump 40DCNF with 255 hp, based on the experience of the Ferrari racing (and also used on the famous Lancia Stratos). Which allows it to accelerate from 0-100 km/h in 6.5 s, and 100-200 km/ h in 17.8 s, and reach 256 km/h top speed This is one of only 750 copies of "Vetroresina" which were built by Ferrari, making it among the most sought after cars by collectors. Car viewable from the our car showroom, in Quingentole (Mantova, Italy). For price and more info visit our website.
1976 Ferrari 308 GTB vetroresina for sale: Anamera 1976 Ferrari 308 GTB vetroresina 95.000 EUR - Asking Price The 308 GTB is a very important model in the history of Ferrari : its "lean and mean" 2-seater structure with mid-engine, inspired by racing models made it an immediate succes. Style is by Leonardo Fioravanti (PininFarina), who created the Daytona, the BB and P6 prototype... With a leading-edge - for the period - composite glassfibre bodywork, and its 4-cam all alloy 3-litre V8 this stylish 3-seater it was in line with the perfect Ferrari tradition. Prepared as Gr. IV and Gr. B by Michelotto, it was a remarkable racing berlinetta. The first series "VETRORESINA" is by far the most sought-after by Collectors: 130 kg lighter than the steel version, only 500 were built in LHD and dry sump...versus over 12.000 for later series. This example is not only very exclusive with its (original) black paintwork, but it has been preserved by probably only three careful owners, with a certainly correct 58.000 km on the odometer. It still has its owner's manual, its guarantee and maintenance booklet, its tires and paintwork reference stickers... and even the two specific fitted Ferrari suitcases (Schedoni leather). It is therefore an incredible opportunity to own one of the coveted Classic Ferraris, before its market value closes the gap with the (only V6-powered) Dino 246.
http://www.classicdriver.com/de/car/ferrari/308-gtb/1976/117472 1976 308 GTB Vetroresina EUR 95.000,--
In the July issue of OCTANE there is a article about something like if you had so much money, what would you buy. Under the £100.000 heading it has, FERRARI 308GTB - -- -- No desirable (and rare) glassfibre body at this price, but what a car for the money. I agree.
60K Euros? That seems quite low. I wonder if something is wrong with this car, it doesn't look bad on the pictures.
750 copies built, 1050 kgs..another "creative" add...hope we will not find these figures for reference in the future! Rgds
To be fair, 750 is as reliable as 712 or 808. They made a rough average calculation here, nothing too bad for me. Weight is a bigger issue...
The weight question is actually not very important in itself, it is now an old car, and the impact of a few kilograms on the performance 35 years after its apparition on the market is not very relevant. The true figure, as it appears on the official certificate of homologation by Ferrari for this car with the Italian department of road safety is 1240 kgs. So Ferrari knew this from the beginning, even if they were suggesting something as 1150 kilos for marketing purposes... It has been verified on this forum by owners who did weight their car(s) to check: they indeed found 1240 kgs, with some slight variation of a few kilograms depending on the markets/versions, etc... The true difference with a steel car is therefore of "about 25 kilos". What infuriates me is that we usually saw figures between 1090 kilos and 1150 kilos in different adds or publications. But I have never seen a figure so low as 1050 kilos until today. I wonder how long it will be until we see a figure rounded just below 1000, let's say 995? Some legends or myths die hard indeed... Rgds
And 1240kg is a dry weight. What I've also noticed as I'm sure many of you have as well, is that vetro cars themselves vary in weight 20kg either way, with the lightest I've ever heard of being Harry Metcalf's which he recently posted on F-chat being around 1275kg with a tiny bit of fuel. The difference between steel and vetro is never going to be more than 50kg though, and for my taste that's just not a lump of beans of a difference. If a person has a steel car and really wants to lose a real 50kg from their car, pick of a set of modern made fiberglass doors and rear hatch from FormulaGT, they are extremely light (much lighter than even the original glass components). A couple real Michelotto cars are actually running with the hatch, not sure about the doors. The doors weigh something like 4kg each and the hatch weighs 6.5kg, this is a huge chunk of weight less than the original glass components and will take any steel car below the weight of a glass car if a person were really that determined on having a really light 308.
I would say mine weighs the same as Metcalfe's then at 1270kg sans fuel. It's easy to understand the variance in quoted weights given the range of different specs they came in. Wet sump, dry sump, A/C optional in some markets, different size wheels and tyres etc. The standard exhaust rots out in no time flat and it weighs a ton, easily 20kg more than the ANSA sports exhaust that was used as a replacement in period. Even removing the smog equipment would drop 5kg IMO. I think 50kg is a significant difference in a car of 1270kg with only 255hp. I would think it would be worth as much as a second a lap on a 4.5 km circuit like Phillip Island, everything else being equal.
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