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308 GTSi or 308 QV?

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  1. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I hope it lasts. I am about 120,000 on mine at the moment.
     
  2. StuR

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    I wouldn’t run synthetic oil in a Q.V. more problems than benefits.


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  3. miketuason

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    You have a long way to go:)
     
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  4. ferrariowner

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    I think the valve stems will wear out long before the liners.
     
  5. G. Pepper

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    I would expect you are absolutely correct. The BMW motorcycle community is exactly the opposite of the Ferrari community, insofar as Beemer riders brag about how many miles they have put on their vehicles, not how few. Top end rebuilds there are usually over 100K miles easy, even on the newer bikes with high compression engines.
     
  6. miketuason

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    Really why? I have been using synthetic oil for over ten years on my QV and the engine has been running like New and strong with 85K miles and have been doing a lot of spirited driving and believe it or not NO leaks.
     
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  7. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    He is probably referring to leaks.

    Syns don't cause leaks but they will make a small leak "worse". High mileage synthetic oils like Mobil 1 makes have more seal conditioners (I suppose that is what it is called) that tends to help.

    Like you, I have been using syn oil since forever.
     
  8. StuR

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    Yep.


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  9. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    But like Rifledriver said, lubrication technology today is such that we can pretty much just pick the oil with the prettiest label.
     
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  10. StuR

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    Used to be more posts here about synthetic oil than even about timing belt intervals and front wing shields!!!


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  11. StuR

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    I found that synthetic when hot tended to be burned more, the engine benefitted from being warmed more slowly and pressure drops from long high revs and engine running were more pronounced/ of a problem (wet sump Mon Q.V.). Certainly found that synthetic better at finding older, dryer, stiff seals that wanted to weep! Probably old wives tales, but always preferred older women ;-)


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  12. miketuason

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    I agree but I really like to hear why he wouldn’t use Synth. Oil in QV.
     
  13. G. Pepper

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    I put 54K miles on a BMW K1200LT in four years. There are arguments for and against synthetics, and they may be irritating in that they expose developing leaks earlier,.. :) but I decided back then - 2002 bike - to go with the marginally more viscous dino juice. The engine was perfect when I sold it at 54K miles, so I didn't make a bad choice. Today's synthetics are better though, so I might choose differently now.
     
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  14. vaccarella

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    Interesting, but I was referring to the zinc.
     
  15. miketuason

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    Paul the Redline oil I use 5w-50 has 1225 Zinc and 1375 Phosporous, now is this good or not?
     
  16. vaccarella

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    I've honestly no idea, Mike. I was referring to the zinc rustproofing & it's longevity.
     
  17. nerofer

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    I agree wholeheartedly. It is a pity that the "red disease" started to grow on these cars with Magnum P.I. Many, if not most, of the first carbed cars were not ordered in Rosso; but then, it began to grow to the point that 77% of the 328s produced left the factory in Rosso Corsa. That's a shame, considered that the shape of the car accepts many different colors with grace and elegance. I'm very fond of the blues...

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  18. kcabpilot

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    I agree they look good in virtually any color but I have noticed there seems to be a subset of people who literally cannot stop themselves from making disparaging remarks about red Ferraris. I don't understand it, why the hate?
     
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  19. nerofer

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    I don't mind, or resent, the red Ferraris, except for certain models that, from my point of view (= "this is my opinion, and I share it with myself", to translate a great french amuseur) are not at their best in red: for instance, I think that the 550 Maranello doesn't look as nice in red than in blue for instance.

    My 328 GTB is Red, but she wasn't supposed to be red; I was looking for a silver or blue car, but after six months of waiting without any opportunity, I bought a Red one mainly because the seller was very honest about what the car was (and wasn't). ten years later and without any mechanical trouble whatsoever, I'm happy to have her as she is.
    My 328 GTS is Black ("Nero Fer") but I wasn't supposed to buy another Ferrari at the time; I saw the car on the Internet, found it "interesting" with a rather different color combination (Black Metallic, Gray Leather, black carpets) and discovered that she was garaged 500 yards from my parisian flat, a very short distance for Paris: no need for even the Métro or a bus, I could walk ten minutes to see it. That's what I did and I shouldn't have. A few weeks later I bought her, mainly because of the colors.

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  20. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    I like marrone/tan
     
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  21. Formula Uno

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    Interesting...so now we know the answer to your username;)

    Very unique Neofer;)
     
  22. Formula Uno

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    I appreciate a Ferrari in ANY color but to me a Ferrari is Red;)

    To each his own, that’s why that offer different colors;)
     
  23. nerofer

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    Yep, I ran out of pseudos (or usernames) the day I subscribed to F-Chat, so I took "Nero Fer" as it is the color of the car (901/C for Glasurit); but she was sold new in Germany, and the color, although coded 901/C, is usually called "Nero Carbonio" in Germany.
    Imagine I have bought a "Verde Germoglio" one, that would have made an interesting username...
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  24. nerofer

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    Yep, it is subdued and classy.
    I wouldn't be able to resist a Prugna over Crema 328 GTS...
    ("I can resist everything except temptation" Oscar Wilde)

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  25. dinonz308

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    There was a Prugna over Crema 308 QV Euro that I would have snapped up if I was in the market at the time - it was gorgeous!
     
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