Hello Guys Ive finaly sold my muscle car off. Im now in the market for a Ferrari. I wanted to ask between the 308/328 (obviously 328 worth more?), which would be 'easier' to sell?
erm That wont help with what Im trying to achieve. I want to own a Ford GT ultimatelly, but I wanted to drive a car that felt like a race car compare to my Muscle Car... but at the same time, something I could be selling to make some extra $$$ to help me get towards the goal Im after. SO i will probbably need 2 ferraris before I can buy the F355 I am after and thus I wanted to know which am I better off getting then, the 308 or 328, which one can I enjoy driving (which will be both) but which will sell easier to help me get some $ to get another 1 and work my way up to what I want to own ultimatelly. Is the 328 like a car that is almost impossible to sell as its neither here nor there while the 308 is at least the Magnum PI car giving it a larger market of buyers, or is the 328 easier to sell because the 308 is so flawed in a sense of build quality... ???
It's tough to sell either in this market. Depends on what you prefer. Besides the styling differences and HP boost the 328 has better side mirrors and an emergency brake that actually works. You don't know 'till you live without these creature comforts how important they are. Personally i just like the 308 looks that much better and would always want one over a 328 but the 328 is an evolved and improved version of the 308.
what he said.... its all a personal preference. Nice 328 in the mid-forties. Nice 308 QV .... http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=7124
You have to look at/drive them both and decide; most of what you are going to get here is an argument among 308/328 owners. Or folks that will just decline to "get involved." You should have kept the muscle car! (assuming it was the real thing from the 60's-1971)
If I understand you correctly, you are trying to make some money with a 308 or 328? That likely won't happen. You'd be better off putting your money in a safe financial investment. A nice version of a carb'd 308 or a nice version of a 328 will likely have the same ease or difficulty in selling. -F
If moving up is your goal and you want to conserve cash, don't waste your time with a Ferrari. You will waste way too much money in maintenance to make sense. All post '75 non-supercar Ferraris are a losing proposition as they all cost plenty to maintain but are not appreciating. Most are still depreciating. I would suggest you try a car like a Lotus Elise. Cheap, no significant maintenance required, decent resale, and probably the best handling/steering feel you're likely to ever encounter.
I could afford anyone up to a 430 but I choose a 308 because I can maintain it with little effort. If you want a 355 wait for the 360 so you can change belts without removing the engine. A 328 is not enough more powerful than a 3X8 so if you are used to muscle cars go out and buy yourself a ZR1 or ZO6. The early F-cars are NOT FAST but nothing else has the classic look other than a few other exotics. Lost
I'm not sure how a 308 or 328 ( or 355/ 360 you mentioned in a later post) will help you make some extra $$$ to get you towards your goal of a Ford GT? In this economy you would be better off not buying a Ferrari and just saving your money. None of these are cars that are appreciating in the near future. If you are used to and want muscle car torque and HP, you will probably find both the 308 & 328 severly lacking in those areas and maybe a disappointment. If you want something that you have to drive in the higher rev ranges to get its max power and which are fun on winding roads, then maybe a 308 or 328 will work out for you. Best regards, Dino
This is it.... The early 308s are the original essence of the vehicle, IMO....while the 328 is definately better build quality and refined handling, even with ABS at the end. But I have three of the strongest performing 308s, the early NON CAT engine specification, as well as a Trans Am 6 speed with 275HP LT1 engine, stock. If you are "working towards a GT40" you will be disappointed in either car!
This is good advice. As far as whether to buy a 308 or 328, the general advice is to go with the 328 if you can afford it. There have been many discussions about this on FChat, but the 328 improved on the 308 in terms of electricals (throughout, but ignition being the big one), brakes, engine durability and output, rust prevention (from what I have seen), wheels/suspension, a/c, power window design, cooling (308 QVs are the weakest, but the 328 radiator is more upright and effective), etc. You won't make money, but if you're new to Ferrari and want a reliable car, a really good 328 is your best bet. They will always be in demand.
Sorry GMan if I'm putting words in your mouth... I don't think he ever said he wants to make money on the car. He wants to buy something with a sports car feel and flair that stands a chance of holding value, and can be sold later with relative ease. That's a classic "drive your money" scenario that a lot of car guys follow. It's more fun to drive and enjoy something rather than leave the money in the bank. If the car in question won't depreciate much and stands an even chance of rising a bit, so much the better. In that case, a 3x8 is an ideal car to consider. The only wildcard is the maintenance, which you can mitigate by purchasing an excellent car with a recent major from a well known shop. Personally I think it's a good approach and one a lot of guys follow, even if GMan was just a bit more up front about his intent. You're not buying your lifelong dream and you're not buying something investment grade. You're buying enjoyment and paying a bit for the privilege, looking ahead. In that scenario, a good 328 is probably the best model to consider, followed closely by a 308QV.
Nicely said. It was a 308 that I have seen but it was a 328 that I bought, With an engineering background, I learn to go for the latest revisions of software, hardware because bugs in previous releases were usually fixed and improvements were incorporated. It applies well to cars too.
It sounds like you're trying the time honored "Wheeler Dealers" approach. Get a decent car, throw a bucket of paint over it and move it on with a few dollars in profit (assuming your time is worth nothing). I've done this many times - traded Fiat 124 coupe straight across for a 61 E-type coupe, MGBs too numerous to mention. You can "climb the ladder" this way but it stops making sense when you get to Ferrari because of the maintenance/parts costs. I paid $30K for my 308 and I've spent $15K just keeping it decent and running. I might/maybe get $25-30K if I sold it. By my math, that won't get me into the seat of a Ford GT very quickly. Fortunately I prefer driving a Ferrari to a Ford!
In my opinion there is always money to be made in unique cars - certainly 308s/328s. The question is can you do your own work and spot a solid car. If the answer is yes, then buy right, have fun, and sell at a profit when done. If you can not do your own work then it will be very difficult to make money unless you are able to buy a car very cheap and then flip it. Less fun I think than keeping a car and enjoying it. I even owned a 400i for a few years and sold it for a profit. These have much higher mainenance costs than a 3x8. Good luck, I hope you take the plunge!
Thanks guys. Basically the reason I thought of this is because I can make $20,000 profit on my 1968 QQ1 blue white top (all original including boot floor and floor pans) Charger. So I since I know for fact I can get another 1 like it for 20 000 less... I thought... well its money, why not? That got me thinking about Ferraris, reason being, I got leads and people that can look at 'very good' cars with full inspection reports... while with muscle cars Im still buying with a blind eye and hoping its what I wanted or else SCREWED cause I cant do the work myself. So for me it was a matter of... well If I can get a 'good' ferrari (after inspection etc) for X amount of dollars landed, and I know in my country they sell for a minimum of $15,000 more... that to me is a 15,000 profit I could get... may take 6-12 months to sell, but at least I enjoyed the car for the time of making some money on it. I never planned to sell my CHarger until I decided I wanted a race car feeling car (exotic or GT40), Since I know I been offered $10,000 more than I purchased the charger I was like "hmmm.... I know i can get another like it for the same price I got this 1 for and that would still leave me 10k in the bank aswell", n thats how all this started. Thought I could have the car I like the feel off while turning over some cash on it aswell climbing up the ladder even though it may be 1 car per 6-12 months. Im not in rush to sell it, as Im doing what I am doing for money sakes, I just figured, if I can acquire a car knowing its value where I am is 10 000 or more than I purchased it for, I can continue my normal work, enjoying the drive of a race feeling car making an extra 10 000 when someone turns around and says "would you sell your car? would u take X amount for it",so why not. Owning the car isnt taking up my time, I still do my work, I still drive my ferrari, someone offers 10 000 more than I paid... have it. Its extra $ with no extra time invested. N thats like that little extra $ on the side that will eventualy get me where I wanna be. Once I sell my Blue Charger, thats the money I will have to use as wish, no more no less. If I can get a 328 through my leads for the money I will have off the Charger, I will get a 328, if not... then a 308 has to be it until I sell it off and THEN get the 328. After that the F355 (which I think is the best looking ferrari EVER built), and finaly the GT40 (My muscle sounding, torque producing exotic handling car). THanks for the imput guys and I also want to learn how to use spanners on my own car, I baught some tools, I hope I can ask questions here and get some over the net knowledge what bolts to turn in which direction to do XY or Z on the car (I assume I can learn this way?) BTW- I will be happier with even a 308 than I would the Charger... not because of the Torque (obvious reasons) but because its so low to the ground, u drive 45mph and it feels like your doing 100mph. Thas the 'fast' feel I like. I rea other people that own F355 and Porsche say "MY porsche is faster around the track, the time clock shows the porsche is faster but the Ferrari feels faster than the porsche", to me thats whats important... a car that 'feels' fast. The whole reason to making a car have huge power is to 'feel fast' since ferraris 'feel fast' without all that power, I achieved the same goal (Fast feeling car)... and being a FERRARI is just gonna be awesome for the business I am part of... so making the extra $ by buying the right car for right price to start with is an extra bonus ontop of the awesome feeling car, enjoyable car, good for business car. And getting that little Extra $ means I got some extra $ to spend on my next car, as all the money I got to use is what I will have from this Charger. So I dont see ANY loss in this idea but a gain. Even if I break even, I got to enjoy an awesome ferrari that I do like. Magnum PI... Cool. thank u!
Depending on the motor that's in that Charger, it could be worth a lot more than any 3X8. I'm an old muscle Car guy - owned more different Mopars from '66 on than I care to count. But they were just "last year's model" back in the day. Sold my 65 Max Wedge SS car for 1500 bucks, my '66 Hemi Belvedere for 2500 bucks, my '68 340S Barracuda for 500 bucks, my '71 SS/F Challenger (drag car only) for 1000 bucks, my '70 440/6 Road Runner for 2000 bucks, my 71 Hemi Barracuda for 3000 bucks. Like I said...who knew? They were all gone by 1980 except for the 340S Barracuda - kept that one for 17 years, until '85. There were more but there's no point in going on about it; just makes me sad! The least expensive of those cars today is easily worth more than my 328. Keep the Charger.
That sounds about right, LISTEN to this guy ^^^^^^^^^^^. PS: A Euro spec 308 imho, just keep in mind a 3x8 is actually LESS of a performance car than a Mazda Miata.
Except when driving the Miata, people are quite open about questioning your sexual orientation. My friend had one, that was a very embarrassing car to ride in!
And driving a Ferrari some women wonder about you possibly compensating for small penis size. Am not a Miata fan, as they are the cockroaches of the track, yet Ferrari cars on the street seem to mainly attract men... and that's not my preference. Pick you poison... or get a nice used Bentley and then it is ALL good
