308 QV Euro exhaust...

I am at work but will take some pictures tonight of my '84 Euro QV exhaust and send them to you.

 

same here although I know from previous posts there seems to be differences on some euro cars. I know some have one real long tube and a short one, while mine is equal lengths. I just bought a Larini exhaust which I've yet to install. I’ll post some picks when I get home if that will help.

 

Here are some from my euro qv. Stock muffler.

I have some more on my camera fron the last couple days as I've removed and re-installed the rear header if you need more.

If you have the correct parts, it should be simple to assemble- there are very few parts to the euro system (two headers, two oddly shaped pipes, a muffler, various hardware, heat shields, etc.)



Good luck-
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Hi Ben,

My 1984 308QV (Euro) is in the shop, so I can't send you pictures. If Greg sends pictures, what you'll see on his car will look like what's on mine since our two cars followed one another on the Ferrari production line (our serial numbers were 2 apart, and Ferrari only used odd numbers back then). I have a Tubi muffler that was designed for Euro QVs that fit perfectly to the OEM pipes on the car.

If I'm not mistaken, the exhaust system components -- from the manifolds all the way to the muffler -- are completely different for the US and Euro 308QV models.

I'm not sure how the cats and muffler were put on your car to enable you meet emissions requirements, but if you don't have the Euro QV manifolds and intermediate pipes (that go between the manifolds and muffler), I'd guess things won't marry up to your new muffler that's designed for a Euro 308QV. The manifolds are VERY expensive -- probably well over $2K in total for front and rear -- so hopefully the Euro manifolds are still on your car. The intermediate pipes will go for several hundred dollars each.

While I was writing this, I just jumped over to the Ferrari owner's site (www.owners.ferrari.com), from which you can then access the Ferrari U.K. spare parts site. You can view the differences (I confirmed my recollection that they're very significant) between exhaust systems of the Euro and U.S. 308 QVs by browsing through the parts catalogues, which have diagrams you can view.

Hope this info. helps and that you can find a solution that doesn't break your budget.

Regards,
Charlie

 

I have been working with Mille Miglia on special need set ups, such as the one below, its made for my 3.5 liter 308 so its a Euro style, but this unit will fit on USA mountings, this system is based on their euro performance series muffler. The system pictured below would bolt on to your existing manifolds, as you can tell by the pic its a clean & sweet set up but more expensive than the Stebro. Good luck.
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Nick will something like that work for a 328 (single cat) USA version? or will they fabricate some?

 

Nick- that looks awsome. But, how does it hook up to a stock euro header?

It looks like the longer pipe of the unit you posted would run up the back of the engine instead of the front timing belt side. Maybe the picture is reversed? Just curious. Maybe i'm just confused, which is quite often.

Either way- it looks like a very nice piece.

Here is my euro front header installed, and another of them stripped and painted:
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this diff is what I was talking about, i.e. that one real long pipe. Look at jwise's and the exhaust pipes are very short. Is the diff the two connector pipes or did they have diff euro setups? Mines an '85 and looks exatcly like jwise's

 

We have done exhaust systems for clients so it will work. All I need to tell them is something like " the guy has a Euro 308 QV, but he does not have all the pipes needed as it was modified for DOT importation, can you do a system for me from the headers back that is all one piece?" That is what they did for me on my cars. I have USA spec cars, they now have Euro style exhausts on them & I have done the same for other clients on other 308’s. Keep in mind that these systems are approx $2700.00 fully polished, if just the muffler section polished & not the rest of the pipes other than the tail pipes it sells for $2400.00, that is much more than a Stebro. If I can be of help, let me know.

 

I hope you chose to ceramic coat them, and that it's not just paint.
As the headers can get hot enough to blister hi-temp paint right off.

 

be careful Ben before you buy. jwise's is I believe, like mine and has TWO input pipes into the muffler, not a single pipe. As I said in my earlier post, it almost seems as if there were diferent exhaust setups, even for the euros. Perhaps diff years?
I considered Tubi, Stebro, and others before deciding to go with Larini.

 

Yes- mine has two pipes into the muffler as BigAl mentioned. Here are some more photos:


benjammin308- the Stebro muffle you posted would bolt right up to my system- as long as the measurements were correct. The muffler layout is identical.

Good luck
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sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
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FYI I purchased a stebro muffler. I am going to send it for jet hot coating. Here is photo of the rest of the exhaust that Quicksilver is fabbing for me right now, I will also send this for Jet-hot. My car is '83 euro.
(Forgive if the picture doesn't come thru my first attempt at posting photo)
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I was going that route until I visited (and called) most of the muffler shops here and no one did mandrel bending and none had done on a Ferrari let alone other performance sports cars. All I heard was "We can try....", didn't fill me with confidence.

I researched and shopped around and decided on the Larini system. I'm going to do a before/after photo documentation as well as sound files.

 

I went down the Tubi route on my 308,sounds brilliant and looks pretty good too
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Chris- that looks very nice. Please post a photo of the complete product.

I just yesterday finished installing the rear header because of a crack.
I took it out and welded it up- and I'm hoping it will hold.
So far so good- no problems today.

Here is my track only muffler:
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do you still have the 308? Could you make a sound file and post?

 

Sorry Al,sold it a few months back.Don't half miss it though.

 

Jwise,

Are those catalytic converters on your track system, or are they mufflers? I also see that you have a "crossover" pipe that mixes the the gases from each bank. Was this necessary? I've got a similar system (I'll try and post a pic when I get home) w/o the crossover and have always wondered if it would make a difference.

Henry

 

sure look like converters....

 

what made you go with Tubi, name, recs, etc?

 

Did a lot of research over here in the UK.And I must be honest the quality and finish of the Tubi was way ahead of anything else available.As well as sounding good,the system had to look good because as you know on the 308 you can see it.