308 QV Fuel Part not available...from anyone

Off hand, do you recall the part number? Was it 121157?

 

Go to an MB salvage yard you can use an MB part with some mods. This is common on early MB when changing from the internal check valve fuel pump to the external check valve pump, the internal valve pump was superseaded. Also you can buy the banjo and the fitting for the accumulator with barbed fittings and connect them with 6mm plastic line. Just make a loop so it will not kink and get the cap nut from MB.

 

Do you have any way to try part # 119305? That is the pump-to-accumulator pipe used on later 308's and 328's which is still available. The Ferrari UK website lists the same fuel pump/accumulator bracket (115513) fuel pump (121727) and accumulator (113978) as replacements for all '80 - '85 308's, so I don't see why the later pipe wouldn't work in place. Looking at the diagrams, it appears the only difference is that the earlier pipe is in a C shape and attached directly into the back of the pump and accumulator while the later design uses a side banjo fitting on the accumulator side with an external check valve (120098).

Now that I think about it, you said the banjo fitting was cut. It sounds like the PO used the later design pipe and maybe tried to not use the external check valve. I bet that if you got a pipe, check valve, and proper banjo bolt that it would fit. Then again, I don't know if you could use an external check valve if you have an internal check valve pump on your car.

For what it is worth, the correct part number for your car appears to be 115532.

 

How about a race shop, machine shop, motorcycle shop, etc?

I replaced my fuel pump a few years ago and don't really recall the whole set-up (80 308), but I sort of remeber the hard line you are talking about and not wanting to break it...

Anyway, my thought is that a race shop (or whatever) would have hard fuel line that they could bend, flare, fit to a banjo, etc... to whatever you need or mod the set up in a way that could be both safe and useable.

It's been my experience that a "local place" can sometimes help out in ways dealers and parts suppliers can't. I'm not saying that things are band-aided or cobbled together, but moded to work in the way that you need it.

Just a thought... good luck

 

Assuming that you are refering to the pipe arrowed then sadly it is no longer available from the factory in Italy. However, depending on how desperate you are, I have located the pipe (# 119305) in two places - Garage Foitek in Switzerland and Viglietti Motors in South Africa.
If you want their contact details then please send me a PM
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Matt - you have mail

 

If you draw a blank with them, let me know and we'll try contacting them on your behalf.

It wouldn't be cost effective to make just the one pipe, however we are looking to make some in the future.

 

this is definitely the downside of owning old cars. Ran into a similar problem with my old Ford pickup.

 

From the drawing that looks like an easily replicated part. Just take it to a motorcycle shop and ask them who they use to fabricate oil/brake lines.

 

Agree with Quadri... worth checking here.
http://www.paragonperformance.com/

They made up some odd lines for me when swapping to EFI, and were the only place I found who could get a metric to AN fitting (filter to rail).

 

Has anyone found a place to source this part? Mine got pinched as I was trying to remove it, not completely pinched, but enough where I would err on the side of caution and replace it, while I have everything apart.

One side is the Banjo (coming out of the Bosch Fuel Pump) and the other is a compression-type fitting (to the accumulator), shaped like a "C".

My 308 is a 1985 QV.

Many thanks all!

 

I twisted mine on my 85
I took it to a local machine shop
the tubing was purchased from McMaster and Carr and bent to shape
they machined the banjo fitting and braised the tubing in
cost me twenty five bucks
they do occasionally pop up on eBay

 

It doesn't look like to difficult of a part to fabricate.

 

Is it possible the Mondial part could work?

https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/121560274956


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Update to this: I took my tube to a local Mercedes shop (not a dealer, just a shop that has been around a LONG time). He knew all about Bosch CIS, extremely knowledgeable... He took a look at my "pinch" and said it could easily be fixed. He disappeared into the back with it and reappeared with it fixed! I think he heated it and bent it back and somehow "unpinched" it. It looks perfect! He didnt even charge me! Ill bring my QV by once its put all back together and take him for a spin!

Plug: Xavier's in Newburgh, NY
Mercedes Auto Services Newburgh, NY - Xaver's Foreign Car Service
845-564-2430
They were great, and VERY knowledgeable on all things Bosch. And experts in all things Mercedes...

 

One question: The tube was much easier to connect to the CENTER fitting on the Accumulator... Does it matter? I read online that there is no "IN" or "OUT" on an accumulator, both are the same... Is that true? Any harm in running the connection between the fuel pump and accumulator to the CENTER fitting, instead of the outer fitting?

 

The other fitting has something inside to guide the fuel fluid.

Guido